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Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« on: July 28, 2013, 11:40:38 PM »

Adding a toe guard and anti scuff is something I seem to do without thinking twice to any bat which doesn't have one.

But recently have this feeling that I'm adding needless weight in the wrong place with a rubber toe guard. I mean what does a toe guard weight?! 1oz? An extra grip; 1.5oz? Thick Any scuff; 0.8oz? (Complete guesstimates)

So if you buy a bat that weighs (let's say) 2lb 8oz then add all of those bits you're looking at 2lb 11oz plus.

How effective is glue and what sort of weight would it add?

Is it all in my mind?
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 07:44:57 AM »

This is something i've never really thought too much about myself but I guess you're right it does add extra weight. A toe guard and scuff sheet is also something i don't bat an eyelid at! I've never used anything else on the toe so will be interested in responses.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 09:11:45 AM »

Someone nice told me to just fibreglass the toe.


But as with glue, you'd have to be highly skilled to make it neat, or spend a while sanding it smooth after?
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 09:24:18 AM »

Someone nice told me to just fibreglass the toe.


But as with glue, you'd have to be highly skilled to make it neat, or spend a while sanding it smooth after?

When you say fibreglass, do you mean just tape it up? Or actually somehow fibreglass moulding?

I can't imagine applying glue to be that difficult. I would just mask the surrounding areas up, apply the glue and removing the masking tape before the glue drys.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 09:46:54 AM »

Fibreglass as in the strips and resin, or for laziness. The ready mixed stuff you get in halfords.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 11:10:26 AM »

you mean this:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625

intersting - this is common on the bottom of Asian bats and I quite like it. Easier than doing a toe guard (which I am abysmal at fitting!!)
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2013, 11:12:33 AM »

I find shoe goo easier to use and it only takes about 20 seconds to apply
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 11:19:48 AM »

I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.

I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 11:40:05 AM »

you mean this:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_194319_langId_-1_categoryId_165625

intersting - this is common on the bottom of Asian bats and I quite like it. Easier than doing a toe guard (which I am abysmal at fitting!!)


Yep, that's the. Stuff.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 11:41:57 AM »

I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.

I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??

I have a b3 experimentally toe guard on my bat. Very light, Unfortunately it broke on one corner. Seems to surfer the fate off all other toe guards.
Will get a pic later.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 11:45:14 AM »

On the Topic of different toe guards, has anyone ever tried the "hard toe"

I was considering getting on my L&W once that toe guard goes to see what it's like

http://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/prd_87_Hard-Toe.aspx

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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »

I was recommended outdoor varnish on the toe. Seals against moisture, only takes a few seconds and dirt cheap. Does need reapplying every few weeks but I've never had a problem doing it.

I think Dan at Chase mentioned something about a carbon fibre toe guard, anyone heard of these??

Yeah, Andrew at Salix has been recommending dipping the tow in boat varnish.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 11:52:35 AM »

It would be really good to have pics of all methods. We all know what a rubber toe guard looks like and I can post some pics of the toe on my MB LE which seems to be this carbon fibre type.

What does Shoe goo like when it's on?

I'm realtively good at doing this sort of thing and applying a toe guard is straight forward for me now that I've done it so many times. So this is purely from a minimual weight addition/ reasonable toe protection perspective.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 11:56:05 AM »

Shoe Goo goes on like a thick paste and is spreadable with a tool like a screwdriver or a knife, once it dries it becomes very hard and takes the shape of the toe very well.
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Re: Glued Toe vs. Rubber Toe Guard
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 11:59:46 AM »

Putting varnish on the toe dries looking like this. Adds next to no weight, looks good in my opinion and does the job.
One tin of varnish will last ages so works out loads cheaper than applying a toe guard too  :)


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