Topic: Hotspot (Read 3861 times)

Number4 · « **on:** August 07, 2013, 08:44:54 AM »

ICC to investigate players using silicone tape on bat edges to fool hotspot

uknsaunders · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2013, 08:46:09 AM »

Just read it:-

BREAKING NEWS: ICC - International Cricket Council officials are heading to Durham, UK after it emerged players may have found a way to avoid edges showing up on hot spot.

It is understood silicon tape is applied to the edge of the bat and the concerns centre around Kevin Pietersen's dismissal in the second innings in Manchester.

It�s not just England under investigation; 9 News understands Australian batsmen may also being using this method.

Number4 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2013, 08:51:08 AM »

I wonder if this will cause a ruling against using any sort of facing/edge tapes

MD2812 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2013, 08:52:29 AM »

Number4 beat me to making a thread

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10226690/Ashes-2013-batsmen-are-applying-silicone-tape-to-bats-to-deceive-Hot-Spot-claim-Australian-reports.html

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-and-england-face-claims-of-drs-cheating-20130807-2rgll.html

If true it's out and out cheating. I mentioned in a previous post that there had been accusations of vaseline used before.

It can be counter productive though, if you think of LBW's where the batsman has edged it. KP had the faintest hotspot at the OlD Trafford Test and Trott had nothing show on the front facing camera at Trent Bridge.

Olynam · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2013, 08:59:22 AM »

To get around the edges where they have been given out LBW, would they just no tsimply apply the tape to the outside edge of the bat, figuring that an inside edge hotspot will probably save them more often them get them out.

Unless of course the team analysts get involved and advise each player individually based on their technique which edges to cover!

patriotscreen · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:03:19 AM »

Why not just not use hotspot? Snicko seems to be much more accurate.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:03:35 AM »

I think it makes alot of sense as to why umpires are giving snicks we can't see. Easy solution to inspect bats prior to the match and ask for all scuff sheets to be removed.

MD2812 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:05:36 AM »

Quote from: patriotscreen on August 07, 2013, 09:03:19 AM

Why not just not use hotspot? Snicko seems to be much more accurate.

Fine if it's a shot played away from the body, but if it's close to the body could be noise made by bat hitting pad or glove pad etc etc

patriotscreen · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:10:03 AM »

Maybe just not use it at all and only allow the use of hawkeye?

The recent technological advancements have meant that umpiring decisions are almost not required. It's a catch 22 situation, either you accept the umpires decision and go with it, or you use technology to help but don't complain if it doesn't go your way.

Buzz · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:12:12 AM »

All you need to avoid hotspot (on that outside edge) - obviously to protect from cracks in the bat...
http://www.tesco.com/direct/silicone-self-fusing-repair-tape/133-8547.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=133-8547&kpid=133-8547&sc_cmp=ppc_g__&gclid=CPaR5dj-6rgCFcfJtAod1jIAgw

MD2812 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:13:35 AM »

Quote from: patriotscreen on August 07, 2013, 09:10:03 AM

Maybe just not use it at all and only allow the use of hawkeye?

The recent technological advancements have meant that umpiring decisions are almost not required. It's a catch 22 situation, either you accept the umpires decision and go with it, or you use technology to help but don't complain if it doesn't go your way.

This has caused a change in umpire decisions as well.

Haddins wicket at trent bridge in the 2nd innings. Last wicket of the game big noise not given out. Why? Because Eng had 1 review left and Aus had 0.

If Eng review then the correct decision is given, if they don't they would be blamed. If Haddin was given out and he hadn't hit it the umpire has potentially cost the Aussies a 1-0 lead.

MD2812 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:14:37 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on August 07, 2013, 09:12:12 AM

All you need to avoid hotspot (on that outside edge) - obviously to protect from cracks in the bat...
http://www.tesco.com/direct/silicone-self-fusing-repair-tape/133-8547.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=133-8547&kpid=133-8547&sc_cmp=ppc_g__&gclid=CPaR5dj-6rgCFcfJtAod1jIAgw

Sounds like it will be a struggly for any players frantically trying to remove it right now!

Buzz · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:18:01 AM »

Quote from: MD2812 on August 07, 2013, 09:14:37 AM

Sounds like it will be a struggly for any players frantically trying to remove it right now!

indeed there are a load of guests looking up the whole using a hair dryer technique threads right now.

tate035 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:39:55 AM »

Quote from: MD2812 on August 07, 2013, 09:13:35 AM

This has caused a change in umpire decisions as well.

Haddins wicket at trent bridge in the 2nd innings. Last wicket of the game big noise not given out. Why? Because Eng had 1 review left and Aus had 0.

If Eng review then the correct decision is given, if they don't they would be blamed. If Haddin was given out and he hadn't hit it the umpire has potentially cost the Aussies a 1-0 lead.

You seem to be forgetting that had Agar been given out stumped when he was then the game would have been over in 3 days

and the Haddin incident wouldnt have happened.

tate035 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 07, 2013, 09:42:14 AM »

Quote from: MD2812 on August 07, 2013, 09:05:36 AM

Fine if it's a shot played away from the body, but if it's close to the body could be noise made by bat hitting pad or glove pad etc etc

So why not use ALL technology and then with common sense you "should" get the right decision

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