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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2013, 11:54:00 PM »

Great PR/Marketing by Masuri - sky sports all over it.

I would like to see Ayrtek be there one day
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2013, 06:04:10 AM »

The Masuri website pictures make the helmet look almost OK,but the untouched up photos on Facebook it truely looks awful. It does look like they have bolted on a separate ugly peak,it doesn't match the rest of the helmet in shape or finish,truely terrible design.
The grille does at least have some design merit, you get additional strengthening in the important area, nut the extra bar is set back to avoid restricting your view, the set back of the extra bar would also aid the strength.
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2013, 06:31:01 AM »

So let's get this straight. They've designed the peak with a flip up front piece, made it thicker and stiffer and appear to have attached it as a separate piece and the grille with what is effectively (the eye line bar) a ramp to force the ball up into the flip up front piece, with the idea that this will stop the ball  getting through between the peak and the grille.

All this then seems to be more or less retro fitted to the old shape shell, which they've made some forming differences on.

I really think they have messed up on the look of this thing. It's an extremely inelegant design and looks like it was created by three different groups of people. Both Ayrtek and Albion have a more coherent look to them, and I suspect that the Ayrtek is probably safer based on the principle it uses of attempting to deflect the ball rather than providing a "crumple zone" where there isn't really room for it.
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2013, 06:48:30 AM »

The main hurdle we all face as manufacturers with the new standard is keeping out a ball hitting the peak/grille area at 67mph. This is the equivalent to an 82mph delivery out of the hand and quite a significant impact when you view it in a lab and in slow motion video.
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2013, 06:54:07 AM »

The main hurdle we all face as manufacturers with the new standard is keeping out a ball hitting the peak/grille area at 67mph. This is the equivalent to an 82mph delivery out of the hand and quite a significant impact when you view it in a lab and in slow motion video.


I understand that (spent a lot of time in my final year at Uni looking at behaviour of composite structures in road accidents!). Unfortunately for Masuri, they have a brand look that isn't really up to the functional requirement and are trying to shoehorn around that, combined with both Albion and yourselves having the copyright on other, more effective shapes...

Makes life quite hard for them I guess!
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2013, 08:03:52 AM »


anyone else rung up LSE today about purchasing Ayrtek shares?
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2013, 08:10:20 AM »

anyone else rung up LSE today about purchasing Ayrtek shares?
You'll need to talk to Tom about that, he's not listed.... Yet!
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2013, 08:23:23 AM »

So with this crumple zone peak, if I get hit mid game I've got to switch helmets?

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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2013, 08:33:53 AM »

So with this crumple zone peak, if I get hit mid game I've got to switch helmets?
I'm not sure whether it's a crumple zone or a hinged section. If the latter, probably not, although all helmet manufacturers will always tell you to change the lid if you get hit...
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2013, 08:41:12 AM »

The new test standard legislates for a single impact before a helmet is meant to be replaced as per manufacturer guidelines, this is in line with all other safety helmets that are used in cycling, equestrian, skiing etc.

Previously the test used to carry out 2 impact upon the same spot on the helmets in order to pass the test but the revised version has been based upon one so that this gives the opportunity for a design to be made so that upon impact the helmet can crumple to absorb impact. Pro to this is that materials can be used that are susceptible to crushing etc and absorb the energy of the impact but the con is that the helmet would show significant effects of the impact and need replacing as a play off.

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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2013, 08:56:04 AM »

Not a fan at all.

What sort of money are these going to be as it looks like manufacturing costs have increased substantially?
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2013, 08:57:17 AM »

Pro to this is that materials can be used that are susceptible to crushing etc and absorb the energy of the impact but the con is that the helmet would show significant effects of the impact and need replacing as a play off.

Or when you drop your bag!

Sounds like its going to be an interesting time for helmets - Tom must all new helmet now conform to this new standard??? What does this mean for GM, GN, etc.  Interesting times, we are luck to have the inside track.
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2013, 09:01:39 AM »

The old standard will be superseded by the new one that will come into action before the end of 2013.

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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2013, 09:28:02 AM »

Wouldn't look as bad if it was all cloth and didn't have those stupid front vents.

Shame I didn't see this before I accepted buzz's offer for my Titanium grill! Could've charged more!
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Re: New masuri helmet pics released
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2013, 09:42:50 AM »

The new test standard legislates for a single impact before a helmet is meant to be replaced as per manufacturer guidelines, this is in line with all other safety helmets that are used in cycling, equestrian, skiing etc.

Previously the test used to carry out 2 impact upon the same spot on the helmets in order to pass the test but the revised version has been based upon one so that this gives the opportunity for a design to be made so that upon impact the helmet can crumple to absorb impact. Pro to this is that materials can be used that are susceptible to crushing etc and absorb the energy of the impact but the con is that the helmet would show significant effects of the impact and need replacing as a play off.

Ok so I realise all manufacturers will say to replace a helmet after impact but in the real world where we have to buy our own how often does this happen. This looks like more legislation without considering the practicalities of how the product will be used. Also moving forwards how to clubs with junior sections stand with providing club helmets for shared use. Most teams have the cheap gunn and moores provided under the lords taverners scheme.
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