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Re: Bradman
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2013, 11:28:29 AM »

Not only harsh...but your argument is unsustainable a few fronts.

1/ In an era of video analysis of opponents, you are overlooking the fact that Jardine sat in front of a projector watching clips of Bradman batting for hours on end to search for a hint of a weakness.
2/ "Sooking about Bodyline" - with only two bouncers an over allowable along with only two men behind square, I fail to see how it could possibly have been harder than having every ball a bumper and seven men behind square!
3/ Walter Lindrum's records from the 1930's also still stand.
4/ Joe DiMaggio's hitting streak record from the 1941 season still stand.
5/ Cy Young's record as a pitcher have stood for more than a century and are unlikely to be ever broken.
6/ Johnny Unitas record of throwing at least one touch down pass in 47 straight games (set in 1960) is unlikely to ever be broken.
7/ Rocky Marciano's record (set in 1955) of a Heavy Weight Champion going 49-0 and retiring undefeated will most likely never be broken.

I could go on...

Separating Bradman the person from Bradman the batsman may be hard, but the prevailing view is that if he was around in this era, he would also have been far away the best of the best.

Loving all these facts Vic, but I am reasonably sure Drew Brees surpassed Johnny Unitas last season and has set the new record at 54 consecutive games with at least 1 td, before going without a td towards the end of last season. Tom Brady has also passed the record and now has 48 consecutive games with at least 1 td, with a decent chance to surpass Brees this coming season.
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2013, 12:11:41 PM »

Loving all these facts Vic, but I am reasonably sure Drew Brees surpassed Johnny Unitas last season and has set the new record at 54 consecutive games with at least 1 td, before going without a td towards the end of last season. Tom Brady has also passed the record and now has 48 consecutive games with at least 1 td, with a decent chance to surpass Brees this coming season.

I must confess, I am not a great fan of American sports.

My bad!
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2013, 03:16:21 PM »

Bradman vs ajmal or murali would have been interesting :p. Think he would have struggled
Forgot to mention the impact of mystery spin compared to previous generations.
Don't think the ball spun both ways when Bradman played
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2013, 04:36:24 PM »

Bradman vs ajmal or murali would have been interesting :p. Think he would have struggled
Forgot to mention the impact of mystery spin compared to previous generations.
Don't think the ball spun both ways when Bradman played
Eric Hollies to his skipper at the Oval in Bradman's last test match...

"I'm going to bowl him the googly skipper, I don't reckon he can pick it!"

Bradman out for a duck, bowled.

Hollies was a leggy with a top-spinner and googly... They certainly spun the ball both ways in those days!
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2013, 08:33:23 PM »

How good would Bradman have been today,?
Pros- flatter wickets, better bats, lighter gear,one day cricket,less time to get to England, no war to interrupt things
Cons- faster bowlers, better games,more pressure,no back foot rule when bowling.
And don't EVER say that Tendulker is better, he is a joke compared  to Bradman!


He'd be 105, so not amazing!
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2013, 09:21:11 PM »

Bradman vs ajmal or murali would have been interesting :p. Think he would have struggled
Forgot to mention the impact of mystery spin compared to previous generations.
Don't think the ball spun both ways when Bradman played

Jack Iverson invented the Carrom ball back in the 1940s right when Bradman was playing. It fell out of favour around the 70s and only recently revived. Just because it seems new and inventive now doesn't mean it is. Also if players were experimenting with ways to spin the ball back then I would imagine each different bowler would have their own technique. Whereas today there is a standard way to bowl which can be learnt to be read and you can transfer that to different bowlers even if you've never faced them before. I would say Bradman would not have seen much of the bowlers bowling at him and would have to work them out whilst facing them.
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Re: Bradman
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 10:34:22 AM »

Bradman vs ajmal or murali would have been interesting :p. Think he would have struggled
Forgot to mention the impact of mystery spin compared to previous generations.
Don't think the ball spun both ways when Bradman played

Many good judges consider Headley Verity to be one of the finest spinners that England ever produced.

Bill Tiger O'Reilly was considered one of the all time great spinners.

Clarrie Grimmett took 40 wickets in a series and 216 in his career with his bag of tricks...leggies, wrong un's, toppies and a ball that he and he alone invented...the flipper.

The above three are all better bowlers than Ajmal and Murali (no disrespect intended) and Bradman bested all of them.

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Re: Bradman
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2013, 10:57:29 AM »

Bradman vs ajmal or murali would have been interesting :p. Think he would have struggled
Forgot to mention the impact of mystery spin compared to previous generations.
Don't think the ball spun both ways when Bradman played


Before you make such statements, try reading up on these blokes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Bosanquet_(cricketer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._V._Hordern

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Schwarz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_Faulkner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Vogler

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