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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2010, 10:09:13 AM »

Very nice, I can't believe it's 2.7, it looks huge!
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #91 on: March 18, 2010, 10:11:39 AM »

Bat itself looks very well shaped and impressive.

Question on the willow though, I know it's huge but is it naturally light and big? Is there something done differently to achieve these monster bats made from Talismans clefts? I ask because we're seeing a few now from Matt, Black Cat, SillySh and Talisman. If they perform better how come these clefts are not ending up on the bats supplied to pro players on here such as Kieswetter's and the £400 bat which was a twin of an England Lion. Those bats have been relatively small in profile compared to all these monsters.
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #92 on: March 18, 2010, 10:12:30 AM »

this is a hugely impressive piece of work... if this is 2.7 - I am looking forward to seeing what how big you can make a 2.10 bat in the same style
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #93 on: March 18, 2010, 10:17:13 AM »

Can I have it? Lol that's awesome for a 254th attempt let alone 4th
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #94 on: March 18, 2010, 10:23:41 AM »

Cheers guys - just nice to finally make a bat which i think i'd be happy to use....but it is tempting to sell on as im sure it would go like stink.
Tom - Mike just gets some excellent willow, this was not over dried but one he reserved for pro's - pressing cracks permitted it from being used on the international stage, this shows the high standards required to make a pro's bat and the fact that many of these light clefts will struggle to get through the presing process.
I heard Mike sings to his willow before he puts them to bed and he will make them listen to classical music...perhaps this is his secret?
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #95 on: March 18, 2010, 10:30:00 AM »

My point was Kieswetter and the £400 bat got a pretty average sized profile though. I can understand clefts like this being reserved if they are naturally light. Just interested as to why the 2 former bats (apparently for England/Lions players) were pretty average in size, is there a lot more to willow/bats than just pure size? I've never really been interested/looked at willow any further than grains and cleft weight. So it's all new.
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2010, 10:36:53 AM »

EDIT - Just reweighed it, the grip weighed more than i thought, the actual weight is 2.8 and a bit.....even so, still not too bad.

Tom - i cant answer your question, but the two bats which you mention had very little/no concaving  whereas my bat does, this could explain part of this anomaly. Secondly, the cleft i have has such a low density that perhaps pro's require something with a little more density/strength, this bat may break after ball one or last me two/three years? I really dont know though if i'm honest with you.....ask Mike if i was you.
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2010, 10:38:47 AM »

Very impressive! I'd be very tempted to keep that monster

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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2010, 11:13:23 AM »

My point was Kieswetter and the £400 bat got a pretty average sized profile though. I can understand clefts like this being reserved if they are naturally light. Just interested as to why the 2 former bats (apparently for England/Lions players) were pretty average in size, is there a lot more to willow/bats than just pure size? I've never really been interested/looked at willow any further than grains and cleft weight. So it's all new.

Tom, saw an interview with Ian Bell recently (ish) and he talked about the fact that a few years ago he wanted the biggest bat he could get for his preferred weight, but now he's going down the route of picking a shape he feels works for him, as opposed to getting too carried away with how impressive the edges and spine look - maybe that's why the Pro bats we've seen pics of recently haven't necessarily been that big? That's just a speculative comment.

Have to say, I'm excited about the number of custom bat makers who seem to be emerging through this forum - seem spoiled for choice for my next bat!
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #99 on: March 18, 2010, 11:24:48 AM »

Have to say, I'm excited about the number of custom bat makers who seem to be emerging through this forum - seem spoiled for choice for my next bat!
Lol - i hope you dont include me in that list Johnny, 4 bats doesnt make a batmaker :D. I've just enjoyed coming back from work and tinkering with it, this took me several weeks to do.......slow and steady!
EDIT: Measured the edges again, 43mm at the highest point.....thats almost Joker territory!!!!
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #100 on: March 18, 2010, 11:28:49 AM »

With my awful maths and a lot of guessing. If you did this in Joker dimensions you'd have a bat at approx 2lb 5oz. With 45/46mm edges!

DO IT!
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #101 on: March 18, 2010, 11:31:28 AM »

A) I am a chicken and would be scared to do this.
B) I prefer my shape :)
C) I dont trust your maths
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #102 on: March 18, 2010, 11:53:27 AM »

SS - I kind of include you in that list - I didn't say established batmakers I said "emerging". I'm sure if you continue working on it you'll improve in time, and with advice from the likes of Mike and Andy the learning curve might be even steeper - I'm sure Andy only really started out as a hobby and look at the plaudits he has received now
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #103 on: March 18, 2010, 01:29:29 PM »

Tom - i cant answer your question, but the two bats which you mention had very little/no concaving  whereas my bat does, this could explain part of this anomaly.
My bat has massive concaving actually, as the profile is similar to the evolution
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Re: My first attempt......
« Reply #104 on: March 18, 2010, 05:20:02 PM »

Simple answer, Leo's bat and the £400 bat were not my willow... but they were bloody nice. Been looking at tree's today and that is where these big clefts start off ;)
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