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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #150 on: September 06, 2013, 09:08:08 AM »

Wow, just read through this topic and I am astounded in peoples attitudes towards Edward in this thread and the sheer aggressive nature of posts towards someone whom I'm sure has a very busy schedule but has taken time out to support the forum and put forward this new range and the funny thing is majority of people slamming GM will also be those begging for a factory visit which Edward kindly offers the forum. How many big brands would actually take time to visit this forum and share some of the new range? How many MD's of worldwide organisations actually take time to interact with customers and discuss a new product? As Edward has said I'm not sure how you can slam a whole range based on a couple of preview images which has been shared on here. And with regards to GM not moving forward they make subtle changes each year which in my opinion always look good whilst maintaining the GM brand image and quality what is the point of changing something which isn't broken? The Porsche 911 has barely changed over its entire lifespan yet it still remains in production and by all accounts still sells to customers GM remains an established and successful brand which is more than can be said for other companies on the market. I'm sure a lot of research  has gone into the range and Edward and his team didn't wake up one morning and decide this was what was going to be put into production. Is the blatant attack on GM simply because they are one of the "big boys" and one of the successful brands and not one of the smaller boutique handmade brands which everyone on here seems so keen to support? If this was one of the smaller brands I dare say the nature of replies and the feedback would be a lot different...
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #151 on: September 06, 2013, 09:17:13 AM »

I'd like to echo Outlaw and others posters - some of the comments towards Edward are completely out of order, and some people should take a good look at themselves and their conduct!

On a more positive note, I'd like to know why their are two different types of stickers re the six6 and purist - are GM doing a bit of live field testing to see what people like?

I've personally loved the last few years of GM stickers, I own both an Epic and Flare and the profiles/branding are spot on. The raised profile of the logo is a nice touch and the stickers always seem well made compared to a lot of others.

One thing I love about GM is they always have at least one non-concaved bat, whereas a lot of brands are concaving the (No Swearing Please) out of their bats purely to get huge edges.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #152 on: September 06, 2013, 09:24:21 AM »

People posted an initial opinion on the new GM stuff based on what they had seen. Perhaps understandably Edward came on to defend both the products and his company/staff.
While it's good to have Edward (and indeed anyone from any brand) posting on here, I don't think GM should be free from criticism purely because he does, especially as his last post was over a year ago!Perhaps some see the criticims as being a bit aggressive in tone, but I don't think Edwards initial replies (however understandable) really helped the situation. Pulling members of the forum up for spelling etc.

There shouldn't be different standards for different posters regardless of who they are.

A Porsche is not a purchase where people tend just to walk into a shop and wave a few about before picking one with pretty labels, a cricket bat is a relatively small purchase and as such i imagine your average punter (not CB forumer) doesn't give it too much thought before he is on the website/in the shop. So it's a fairly silly comparison, cricket bats haven't changed much over time, but the branding does seem to change fairly speedily.

As for your other point, Kookaburra and Slazenger are hardly smaller brands, yet people have been raving about the new Kook stuff and the Slaz stuff got a mixed reaction.

Anyway, i think it's good to have some strong opinions on here, it's more exciting with some debate 8so long as it's kept civil) than with everyone cooing over the same bats!

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #153 on: September 06, 2013, 09:28:31 AM »

To be fair, Ed seems to have gone to the same PR school as Jason Hammer.

Look forward to the (revolutionary) full GM line up for 2014 once it gets a full release...
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #154 on: September 06, 2013, 10:05:02 AM »

I like the gear, if it's successful, then why tweak it too much. (hence the pads and gloves have been similar for years) Technology and the science of bat making moves on. And GM with the 3 edge options are trying to stick with that. Don't see a problem. Can't see it being a sticking point on buying a bat, but whats it to you, if you want to choose, choose, if not buy a different brand or deal with it.
There are lots of good suggestions for the future throughout this thread, I don't think they are being put across very well in certain cases.
How many big companies care even in the slightest enough to come on here and defend their new technology? None I bet!
I think the new range is nice, the new Six6 branding is a good colour scheme and the pads and gloves will be top notch as normal!
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #155 on: September 06, 2013, 10:13:27 AM »

Really looking forward to seeing the bats in the flesh I am not a fan off the stickers but everyone's taste is different
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #156 on: September 06, 2013, 10:32:45 AM »

Jesus, when people have a point to make they sure get riled up.

Let's just look at a few things here.

For me, GM make the best performing bats (or that suit me), that hasn't changed. Sure the stickers are not to everyone's taste, but neither were the current ones when they were first launched.

To say they're not moving forward is complete BS, what's the DXM process all about then?

Irrelevant of how they look, I think GM have the most consistent QC across all ranges which is why I have all their gear.

Credit to Edward for putting up with this and still replying in a tasteful manner.

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #157 on: September 06, 2013, 10:40:09 AM »

Always happy to do that. Not sure anyone will want to come however!

I'd happily come, been 16 years since I was last there! still remember the teachers red face as a bunch of 9/10 years old pointed out the naked calender. Afraid to say I swiped a purist sticker which I think I still have at mums house.

Ed, any chance of a forum Ask the batmaker with one of your batmakers? Would be great to know more about the start to finish process of GM from a forumite nerd aspect.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #158 on: September 06, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »

May I come to GM please. I'll be good.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #159 on: September 06, 2013, 10:52:53 AM »

May I come to GM please. I'll be good.

I fear they may have to do security checks on the way out if you go mate  ;)
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #160 on: September 06, 2013, 10:57:49 AM »

Please, I'll be more of a pest for sponsorship haha.

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2013, 11:06:36 AM »

To those who think Six6 stickers look inferior. Few months ago, Ton (SS) original stickers sold for 50 plus pounds whereas GN e41stickers sold for 30 during the same time on ebay. Maybe we aren't really an accurate representative of the general public.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #162 on: September 06, 2013, 11:25:09 AM »


For me, GM make the best performing bats (or that suit me), that hasn't changed.


But you haven't actually seen the 2014 range?

Truly, I would suggest that you actually see the range before coming to conclusions.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2013, 11:32:47 AM »

For me, GM bats have always been pressed too hard.  Even the LE bats that we've stocked have been harder pressed than most Newbery 5 Stars, despite costing over £200 more.  I prefer softer pressed bats, and so do most of our customers, so naturally, I don't warm to the brand, especially given the alternatives on the market.

It's not just the stickers, branding, staff etc. that don't impress me.  Quite frankly I have been less than impressed with the way my comments have been dealt with by a GM representative on here.  Yes, it's great that he's taking the time out to respond, but for me, his responses have no substance, and the fact that he hasn't posted on any other threads for over a year kind of tells the story to me...

If I, or other users on here, have some feedback - however critical it might be - why can't it be seen an being constructive? It's the whole "you're wrong, I'm right" attitude that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth for me.

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2013, 11:37:11 AM »

FYI - Ed was kind enough to spend some time on here because Arvind and I asked him too, rather than timing his appearance just for the new kit.
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