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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #255 on: September 11, 2013, 03:21:06 PM »

We design our bats by injecting our own ideas but also by listening to all feedback from all sources. Pros, trade customers, our staff. Even some forums...

Perfectly reasonable question. Could I have an answer to mine please on videos?

Thanks

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Certainly there was a 3 second video posted during your product release day of someone at the front of the room (possibly yourself)  I will see if I can find it again and post the link
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #256 on: September 11, 2013, 03:22:41 PM »


New kit looks awesome, and I've always been a lover of GM, and since the DXM process I have become even more of a fan.
Ever since I had my first duelist as a nipper.

Hope the new range goes well for GM, I can't see why it won't. Shapes of the bats are all lovely!
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #257 on: September 11, 2013, 03:23:39 PM »

I really like what GM are doing and have done over recent years. I think they are one of the most innovative companies in the market, things like the D30 gloves&pads, the use of a pick up index instead of dead weight, the bat selector and now things like the shape comparison and spectrum comparison.


Yes it may appeal more to bat nerds like us, but it is great to have such information available online, as this is where I  make most of my bat purchases. I don't find the information confusing at all, and I believe it is much simpiler than someone like Gray Nic's who have about 8 bats for sale, some off which aren't discernably different.

For those who are not bat nerds, they will just pick up the bat they feel more comfortable with, and not worry too much about all the "techy guff", and continue to act in the way they have done for years.

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #258 on: September 11, 2013, 03:29:19 PM »

Unfortunately not Jimmy, as according to GarrettJ last week, it's all just a fad about big edges.

Alternatively, you clearly understand what we are doing. Our research indicates that the flatter the face of the bat, the more torque is induced when bat hits ball. That manifests itself to the player as a less pleasant, less desirable feel in play. Conversely a larger radiused bat such as F7 imparts more spin to the ball on impact, the energy being dissipated less through torque - this gives a better feel to the player.

The reality is of course that few players consistently hit the ball as often as they would like, so a thicker profile across the section of the bat (ie a flatter face) may give them better results. What we call enhanced shot choice in answer to a question above.

I like your analysis, many thanks

Kind regards

Edward


So, of your a good player, and time the ball well choose an f7 bat?

If your not so good, or merely havea swing(I.e t20) and aren't always gonna find the sweet spot. An f7 bat is for you.

If your somewhere in between or need one bat for both purposes. A six6 f4.5 it is?



As for people commenting on pressing, the shape of the press will be different, so surely there pressed the same across the with of the bat?



Softs look good, and I like the confidence portrayed in joe root(two players bats!).

I'm not a fan of the zona style stickers, and the bags look the same, just a colour change, and as every gm bag I've ever owned has disentegrated in mess than a season, I'm gutted to see they have not changed more.



Just a small question though ed. Have you ever considered a t20 style bat(shorter blade, or gn nemesis style) or is that something gm aren't interested in?
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #259 on: September 11, 2013, 03:32:01 PM »

Unfortunately not Jimmy, as according to GarrettJ last week, it's all just a fad about big edges.

Alternatively, you clearly understand what we are doing. Our research indicates that the flatter the face of the bat, the more torque is induced when bat hits ball. That manifests itself to the player as a less pleasant, less desirable feel in play. Conversely a larger radiused bat such as F7 imparts more spin to the ball on impact, the energy being dissipated less through torque - this gives a better feel to the player.

The reality is of course that few players consistently hit the ball as often as they would like, so a thicker profile across the section of the bat (ie a flatter face) may give them better results. What we call enhanced shot choice in answer to a question above.

I like your analysis, many thanks

Kind regards

Edward

If you want power across the width of blade with the F2 though, you would have to find some way of stopping the bat from twisting so much due to the torque. I've always thought that handle shape (oval) and less concave normally aids this - have there been any tests to see if there is a way to prevent the bat twisting as much? I like that there isn't much concaving at all on most GM bats, so that basically covers one of those points.

Also, I noticed that the handle shapes on the GMs varied quite a lot across the different models. Is this going to remain for 2014? I really liked the shape of the Zona handle, and hope that the Purist has that shape of handle as well!
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #260 on: September 11, 2013, 03:33:44 PM »

New kit looks awesome, and I've always been a lover of GM, and since the DXM process I have become even more of a fan.
Ever since I had my first duelist as a nipper.

Hope the new range goes well for GM, I can't see why it won't. Shapes of the bats are all lovely!
Totally agree mate. Always loved GM gear. Just can't bloody afford it hahaha   Had an apex once and it was a demon bat!!

My new mantra.....

Must get a promotion, need a purist. Must get a promotion, need a purist!!

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #261 on: September 11, 2013, 03:41:57 PM »

I can see it on shelves now... The GM Phi... Or the GM 1.618  ;) :D

In my head it would be referred to as a "gymphy" "gumphy" or "gympy"

Seriously in love with those Original pads! Now to wait a year for end of season sales or scour the boards for someone who bought some but prefers others. :(

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #262 on: September 11, 2013, 03:46:34 PM »

Happy birthday Edward.

For me, and it does hurt a little to say this: I'm glad the Purist is not an original Purist. I had a few Purists and a Purist II, both scored me many runs and I loved all of them. Who here was a little disappointed at the Purist II at first glance with bow and concaving? Point is it's an extension of the Purist era and I would like one, still not a fan of flat faces but I would definitely consider a F4.5.

Now on to that can of worms. I like choice. Choice is good. I don't like flat faces, more so aesthetically than in practice but a compromise between my favoured F7 shape and F2 face is the F4.5. I didn't like the idea before I viewed the website but it seems to get a good halfway point for me. I'd be more than happy to use one, which is the point.

I like the new softs, I liked the old ones but a few colours added to the range reminisces of the range with Hero, Purist, Catalyst, Maxi softs etc which is a good thing. Padded straps on the pads are a good edition, I love my Original pads and that would've been the only thing I would've changed.

The website is incredible, people say too much information but take what you want, leave what you don't. It explains the entire range and why it's like that. No questions left.

Except one:

Edward, do GM still put the anti-scuff sheet under the stickers? I would like to replace a battered scuff sheet and retain the stickers without paying £40+ to send it back to Gunn and Moore.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #263 on: September 11, 2013, 03:48:05 PM »

Outstanding answer Jimmy! Much better than mine and for that Sir, an Original bat of your choice is yours with my compliments.
Wow  :o

happy birthday Edward  :)
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #264 on: September 11, 2013, 03:51:01 PM »

Also Ed,

An idea I hope you take on board.

Due to walking to nets/home games I use a duffle bag and personally think there are massive areas for improvement.

Cricket kit all in a bag tends to be quite heavy, i'd suggest a duffle designed similar to a rucksack (which a suggested purchase when I made a thread on this)

Thick padded waist bands would make a huge improvement to any duffle, so we could carry the weight on our hips rather than shoulders. Getting to a game with an aching back can't be improving my performances :(

Secondly, some form of cover incase I'm walking to indoor nets in the rain (a bin bag is my current innovation of choice in this scenario)

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #265 on: September 11, 2013, 04:28:03 PM »

Happy Birthday Ed, Haven't had a chance to look at the Official new range yet other than the pics on this thread but I do have a question about bags (not bats). Would GM ever consider releasing a plastic moulded hardshell trunk (Like suitcase/luggage type material) that is narrow & tall with bat pockets? There are many on here who have been looking for the perfect kit bag but never have found something that just wow's us.

Plastic would mean its lighter, considering luggage survives many a journey this would be capable of lasting more than a few seasons. Would not have the same issues as traditional stand up bags that fall over etc. Size is key where it should fit bats but also be reasonable to fit in cars etc.
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #266 on: September 11, 2013, 04:35:34 PM »

Having just joined the forum, we have spent the day reading through the various posts and trying to catch up. Having attended the launch day we were very impressed with the new bats and the whole thought process behind the 3 offerings - F2, F4.5 and F7.

As Edward has mentioned in his posts the 3 faces do offer something different when played with and this allows a batsmen to then use what he feels bests suits his style of play and preference.

As for the GM factory, it really is a statement! From the manner in which the willow is dried in a controlled environment to the way in which each bat is individually finished (sanded and buffed). We're pleased they are continuing with the Argon and Octane models for the 2014 season as they sold well this year and with the new Six.6 and Purist we think it will be another good year for GM.

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #267 on: September 11, 2013, 04:39:31 PM »

Sorry almost forgot...Happy Birthday Edward!

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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #268 on: September 11, 2013, 04:40:37 PM »

Thank you one and all for the comments, good and bad. Will endeavour to answer as many as possible, but am now heading out for family evening out.

Kind regards
Edward
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Re: GM 2014 Official Launch
« Reply #269 on: September 11, 2013, 04:41:26 PM »

Sorry almost forgot...Happy Birthday Edward!

Thank you all very much indeed
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