Topic: GM 2014 Official Launch (Read 89910 times)

Beachcricket · « **Reply #315 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:03:35 PM »

Edward,

Would it be okay to email you via your Unicorn email or alternatively empty your inbox as it's full?

Regards
Beach

Hammer Cricket · « **Reply #316 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:04:49 PM »

i understand it fine, its the customers who struggle with it..

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #317 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:14:02 PM »

Quote from: Hammer Cricket on September 12, 2013, 04:04:49 PM

i understand it fine, its the customers who struggle with it..

So how did you get to 33 Icon options?

Kind regards

Edward

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #318 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:14:56 PM »

Quote from: Beachcricket on September 12, 2013, 04:03:35 PM

Edward,

Would it be okay to email you via your Unicorn email or alternatively empty your inbox as it's full?

Regards
Beach

Of course, feel free to email elowy@unicorngroup.com - I just don't do PM's.

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #319 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:18:33 PM »

Quote from: Colesy on September 11, 2013, 03:46:34 PM

Happy birthday Edward.

For me, and it does hurt a little to say this: I'm glad the Purist is not an original Purist. I had a few Purists and a Purist II, both scored me many runs and I loved all of them. Who here was a little disappointed at the Purist II at first glance with bow and concaving? Point is it's an extension of the Purist era and I would like one, still not a fan of flat faces but I would definitely consider a F4.5.

Now on to that can of worms. I like choice. Choice is good. I don't like flat faces, more so aesthetically than in practice but a compromise between my favoured F7 shape and F2 face is the F4.5. I didn't like the idea before I viewed the website but it seems to get a good halfway point for me. I'd be more than happy to use one, which is the point.

I like the new softs, I liked the old ones but a few colours added to the range reminisces of the range with Hero, Purist, Catalyst, Maxi softs etc which is a good thing. Padded straps on the pads are a good edition, I love my Original pads and that would've been the only thing I would've changed.

The website is incredible, people say too much information but take what you want, leave what you don't. It explains the entire range and why it's like that. No questions left.

Except one:

Edward, do GM still put the anti-scuff sheet under the stickers? I would like to replace a battered scuff sheet and retain the stickers without paying �40+ to send it back to Gunn and Moore.

Hi Colesy, thanks for your comments, glad you like what we're doing. In answer to your question, the GM Now cover is underneath the stickers

Kind regards

Edward

Beachcricket · « **Reply #320 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:18:53 PM »

Sorry if this has been covered, I've tried to read through everything but may have missed it.

Not necessarily aimed at Ed, anyone can help me with this hopefully.

How does the F7 (largest curve) provide the best power to weight ratio compared to the other profiles? (as per the catalogue)

Thanks Edward, I'll send you a quick email.

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #321 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:20:54 PM »

Quote from: Beachcricket on September 12, 2013, 04:18:53 PM

Sorry if this has been covered, I've tried to read through everything but may have missed it.

Not necessarily aimed at Ed, anyone can help me with this hopefully.

How does the F7 (largest curve) provide the best power to weight ratio compared to the other profiles? (as per the catalogue)

Thanks Edward, I'll send you a quick email.

Because it's lighter than the equivalent F4.5 or F2

Beachcricket · « **Reply #322 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:27:49 PM »

Okay, food for thought.

Thank you.

Buzz · « **Reply #323 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:29:11 PM »

Quote from: Beachcricket on September 12, 2013, 04:18:53 PM

Sorry if this has been covered, I've tried to read through everything but may have missed it.

Not necessarily aimed at Ed, anyone can help me with this hopefully.

How does the F7 (largest curve) provide the best power to weight ratio compared to the other profiles? (as per the catalogue)

Thanks Edward, I'll send you a quick email.

For my sins, I may have read this thread a little much - but from what I can tell - the bat will be lighter - because the curvature in the face is initially shaped into the bat and then the bat is pressed, rather than in other houses where the curved face is pressed into the bat.
Effectively there is less wood therefore the bat should be lighter (depending on moisture content etc in the willow)

Beachcricket · « **Reply #324 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:41:28 PM »

I'm trying to understand GM's process.

I agree Buzz. If the wood has been removed to create the curve then the cleft will be lighter than if the wood had been left there for a flatter profile. Where I'm getting confused is that if you're creating 3 bats in the same profile, one with F2, one with F4.5 and one with F7 all in 2lbs 10 ounces then where does the extra willow get left to compensate for the weight lost through the face profile?

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #325 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:47:56 PM »

Quote from: Beachcricket on September 12, 2013, 04:41:28 PM

I'm trying to understand GM's process.

I agree Buzz. If the wood has been removed to create the curve then the cleft will be lighter than if the wood had been left there for a flatter profile. Where I'm getting confused is that if you're creating 3 bats in the same profile, one with F2, one with F4.5 and one with F7 all in 2lbs 10 ounces then where does the extra willow get left to compensate for the weight lost through the face profile?

In the famous bat spectrum, we list the volume of Icon in it's three different guises as :

F2 2,290 cm3
F4.5 2,192 cm3
F7 2,141 cm3

The weight spread from these volumes will of course depend on the clefts of willow used, but for any given density of willow, F7 will be lighter

Kind regards

Edward

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #326 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:49:30 PM »

Quote from: Edward Lowy on September 12, 2013, 04:20:54 PM

Because it's lighter than the equivalent F4.5 or F2

Hi Ed, I had read the earlier post regarding this and just thought maybe I missunderstood but here is a question:

Aren't the clefts similarly shaped for all f2, f4.5 & f7? I understood it to be only the press/camber/curvature on the roller to be different which would mean they are all the same weight just the curved one have edges that are harder pressed than the middle where as flat face is uniform pressing. Or is it that you actually shave the edges off during the shaping process to start the curved face before it is ever pressed for curved face bats and hence being a few oz's lighter.

EDIT: Just noticed Beachy has the same/similar question to mine. So are the edges being shaved before pressing? rather than being curved due to just the press/roller.

Edward Lowy · « **Reply #327 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:57:05 PM »

Quote from: tushar sehgal on September 12, 2013, 04:49:30 PM

Hi Ed, I had read the earlier post regarding this and just thought maybe I missunderstood but here is a question:

Aren't the clefts similarly shaped for all f2, f4.5 & f7? I understood it to be only the press/camber/curvature on the roller to be different which would mean they are all the same weight just the curved one have edges that are harder pressed than the middle where as flat face is uniform pressing. Or is it that you actually shave the edges off during the shaping process to start the curved face before it is ever pressed for curved face bats and hence being a few oz's lighter.

EDIT: Just noticed Beachy has the same/similar question to mine. So are the edges being shaved before pressing? rather than being curved due to just the press/roller.

Hi - I have done a more detailed post on this subject earlier. (EDIT Post #312 above) The shapes are not obtained by pressing, they are machined. Pressing to achieve different faces would be dreadful for the durability and consistent performance of the bat

Kind regards

Edward

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #328 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:57:19 PM »

Quote from: Edward Lowy on September 12, 2013, 04:47:56 PM

In the famous bat spectrum, we list the volume of Icon in it's three different guises as :

F2 2,290 cm3
F4.5 2,192 cm3
F7 2,141 cm3

The weight spread from these volumes will of course depend on the clefts of willow used, but for any given density of willow, F7 will be lighter

Kind regards

Edward

Hi Ed, maybe I am being thick but isn't volume space occupied by the bat in this instance? if you were to compress a substance volume would be lower vs same substance less compressed with same weight and specs before compression, i know in comression you might lose someweight due to moisture, air etc being squeezed out but is it really worth 3-4oz considering that amount of weight in wood is signficant if taken off. I am intrigiued as this is very interesting...

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #329 on:** September 12, 2013, 04:57:57 PM »

Quote from: Edward Lowy on September 12, 2013, 04:57:05 PM

Hi - I have done a more detailed post on this subject earlier. The shapes are not obtained by pressing, they are machined. Pressing to achieve different faces would be dreadful for the durability and consistent performance of the bat

Kind regards

Edward

Apologies, i must have missed that. Thanks for answering.

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