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[Number4]

Awhile ago I came up with an idea of getting a bat made using the perfect or golden number phi. I shared my idea with a bat maker from this forum but nothing came of it.

The plan was to make a bat by using phi.. Dimensions, handle to blade ratio, toe to middle ratio, width to thickness ratio.... Everything would relate to the number phi...

What are people's thoughts?

My thoughts were if you use the perfect number to make a complete bat you would have the perfect bat....

Guess we may never know!!!!

[Jenko]

Wow..my head hurts just thinking about it

[Number4]

Wow..my head hurts just thinking about it

Wouldn't it be worth for the perfect bat though?

[WalkingWicket37]

If anybody makes these I'll take 2 please 

[trypewriter]

what weight?

[tim2000s]

Hmmm. The Golden Ratio....

If you were to do this, you'd end up with a bat that looks like the following:

Handle length: 31.9 cm (29.2cm)
Blade length: 53.2 cm  (55.9cm)
Middle distance from toe: 19.95cm
Spine height (using golden ratio of spine height to width): 6.75cm

What I think is quite interesting about these numbers is that they are not far from a normal bat. The normal numbers are in brackets next to these calcs.

Just looking at this, I'd suggest you'd end up with something similar to a Mongoose CoR3 with a mid-middle that would pick up reasonably well, look big and dependent on cleft and batmaker, could be quite heavy.

[WalkingWicket37]

what weight?

If I'm right (which I'm probably not) you wouldn't get a say in the weight, as you'd be working to get the 'perfect' dimensions, so weight would depend on the cleft I'd imagine.

If I've got that totally wrong please can someone correct me lol

[tim2000s]

If I'm right (which I'm probably not) you wouldn't get a say in the weight, as you'd be working to get the 'perfect' dimensions, so weight would depend on the cleft I'd imagine.

If I've got that totally wrong please can someone correct me lol

It would depend on how you limit yourself. If you use the example I gave to give the ratios, i.e. middle position, spine height to width, and don't restrict it more, then you could concave to remove weight. If you wanted to be stricter and include edge to spine height for example, it would become more difficult.

It's basically dependent on how you limit yourself with the golden ratio as to how heavy a bat you could produce.

[GarrettJ]

If I'm right (which I'm probably not) you wouldn't get a say in the weight, as you'd be working to get the 'perfect' dimensions, so weight would depend on the cleft I'd imagine.

If I've got that totally wrong please can someone correct me lol

it would depend on the cleft like you say but you can choose the weight to a certain degree. You can get a 30 -50% difference in weight between two clefts.

I have a 2.7 bat which is the exact same size as a 2.11 both with around 35mm edges, 65mm spine height and the same amount of concaving.

B3 and their crown bats that Procricket has are an example of a bat being the same but weighing less. That is a true international players bat, not the just grains but mainly the size for the weight.

[Nickauger]

Can some-one explain to me what phi actually means. Thanks lol

[Red Ink Cricket]

the dimensions are pretty spot on as tim says. if the cleft weight it right im sure you would be able to work out a rough idea on finished weight, atleast a weight range. sure someone with slightly more up top than me would be able to work that out lol.

[tim2000s]

If it came with a 6.75cm spine peak height at the measured middle and no concaving, I think you'd be looking at a range between 2lb 9oz and 2lb 13oz dependent on the cleft.

[Number4]

If it came with a 6.75cm spine peak height at the measured middle and no concaving, I think you'd be looking at a range between 2lb 9oz and 2lb 13oz dependent on the cleft.

Ahhhh 2lb 9oz my perfect weight

[Number4]

Anyway just an interesting concept I thought... And something to get the mathematical minds thinking

[Red Ink Cricket]

If it came with a 6.75cm spine peak height at the measured middle and no concaving, I think you'd be looking at a range between 2lb 9oz and 2lb 13oz dependent on the cleft.

Subject to edge size, toe and profile shape. Interesting to see if all the measurements were followed how it would turn out