Topic: Indian vs english BATS...THE REAL DIFFERENCE?? (Read 17742 times)

i12breakfree · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:14:28 PM »

Made in India Bats are of very good quality. Specially if you buy the top 2/3 (like SS Gladiator,BAS Shadow etc )of any brand. These are top quality and at par with UK made bats.
Kookaburra, GN, TON, Puma and many other companies have bats that are being produced in India and then sold back in UK. These companies would not survive if there Made in India bats were not good.

You would see the difference when you get a bat that is Made in UK by one of these top batmakers like TK, Matt and many more.
The pressing of wood, the finishing quality, less concaving - there are some fine differences. Obviously you pay top dollar for the higher quality and higher cost of labor. I am sure there are equally good craftsmen in India who make top bats for International players but i don't think we get access to those directly.

himanshuvohra · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:15:29 PM »

Quote from: mattw on October 08, 2013, 12:09:55 PM

So how much are the SS/TON LE bats?

As I would say, getting Roger at Solitaire to make you a bat for �125 or �150 is extremely hard to beat. The quality of his pressing is immense and I know that he has a new set of digital scales...

Hmm....SS/TON LE bats at present will cost around 110-120 GBP in india.....and i would have seen around 10-12 LE bats by now and all of them have been big guns.....

trypewriter · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:29:17 PM »

I'd like to see someone from Uzi Sports have some input into this as they hand select a lot of bats from a number of sources.

MD2812 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:43:04 PM »

So on Uzi Sports a TON LE is £240 which puts it in the same price range as top end bats here.

Have a colleage going to India next year, are there implications on buying a bat out there and bringing it home?
Or to rephrase that question is it easy to get it past customs a) without having to pay import and b) without them drilling holes in it searching for drugs

trypewriter · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:44:44 PM »

I reckon the implication is how much do you trust the judgement of your mate?

mattw · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:45:41 PM »

Quote from: himanshuvohra on October 08, 2013, 12:15:29 PM

Hmm....SS/TON LE bats at present will cost around 110-120 GBP in india.....and i would have seen around 10-12 LE bats by now and all of them have been big guns.....

Okay, well I expect these bats to be about double the price in the UK at least.

What is their after sales service like? For example, if your bat gets damaged prematurely?

MD2812 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2013, 12:47:25 PM »

Out of interest, are their smaller custom companies in India to similar scales of the forum sponsors?

tim2000s · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:20:23 PM »

Quote from: himanshuvohra on October 08, 2013, 12:15:29 PM

Hmm....SS/TON LE bats at present will cost around 110-120 GBP in india.....and i would have seen around 10-12 LE bats by now and all of them have been big guns.....

And therein is the point. Very few people in the UK can buy these bats at this price point. Even looking at the Indian websites, the top end bats seem to be around �175 which, while it is sill relatively cheap, it's not the quoted numbers.

petehosk · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2013, 01:34:37 PM »

My thinking is that I will try to use the best bat suited to me that I can afford.
I do have several SS bats (LE, Gladiator and one from an IPL player) plus other Asian bats. As good as they are (the SS LE is the least impressive of the 3 mentioned, but still a very good bat!) I am still always going to use the best bat that gets me runs! So if it is a choice between the SS LE (even if it did cost me �120) and an AJK (which for example, could be purchased for �350) then I will always use the better quality, better pickup, and better performing bat. i realise that the SS LE may cost less but I would never use a bat purchased purely on value and performance for money alone!
Now I realise that some people have a very strict budget where value for their � is vital!

But if my budget was strictly �120, then I would patiently see what (almost new) bats are in the 'For Sale' section. For example, I picked up a Charlie French Premier Cru which was barely knocked in for �110 and it went like absolutel stink. Also picked up an Adidas Incurza Elite and a BAS Bow T20 for �100 which both went like rockets and were amongst the best bats I have held!
So trying to state that an SS LE is the best value bat you can pick up anywhere, is quite frankly, very blinkered thinking!
It's like saying that the Ford Fiesta or Focus is the best value car you can pick up anywhere! In some ways, it may have some truth in it and there is no denying that they do offer a lot for the money! But who will put it top of their 'most wanted' list?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2013, 02:10:19 PM »

Quote from: Johng on October 08, 2013, 11:47:59 AM

TON or SS LE is the best value bat you will buy anywhere period

Going to disagree here. Our forum sponsors all offer great quality for a great price, and there are done great quality lower grade bats off the shelf if you look around.

amritpremi · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2013, 02:38:28 PM »

I would say quality of a bat is inversely proportional to the no. of bats produced. We can get many good Asian bats when they are handpicked or if we are lucky. %age of good bats from the no. of bats being made in Asian made ones will be relatively lower than the English made ones simply because the English bat makers produce relatively lesser nos. I believe the Asian bats are dryer because of the weather in the subcontinent, and if they reduce the no. of bats produced per year I am confident that they can put in more efforts in quality control and make better finished ones.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2013, 02:52:46 PM »

Quote from: petehosk on October 08, 2013, 01:34:37 PM

So trying to state that an SS LE is the best value bat you can pick up anywhere, is quite frankly, very blinkered thinking!
It's like saying that the Ford Fiesta or Focus is the best value car you can pick up anywhere! In some ways, it may have some truth in it and there is no denying that they do offer a lot for the money! But who will put it top of their 'most wanted' list?

Having bought a 1999 fiesta nearly 2 years ago they're reasonably good, has anyone got an SS LE that's been dented and thrashed by a few previous owners so I can compare notes on the two haha

And if the SS LE is available for �120 it would take a lot for me to consider it better value than my Chase 150 finback for the same price. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure you could ask 100 people what the best value bat is and get at least 100 different answers.

himanshuvohra · « **Reply #27 on:** October 08, 2013, 03:06:59 PM »

Quote from: MD2812 on October 08, 2013, 12:43:04 PM

So on Uzi Sports a TON LE is £240 which puts it in the same price range as top end bats here.

Have a colleage going to India next year, are there implications on buying a bat out there and bringing it home?
Or to rephrase that question is it easy to get it past customs a) without having to pay import and b) without them drilling holes in it searching for drugs

I have a very limited knowledge about the customs but my elder brother braught a GN bat from UK without any import duties or drills.........and as i have read many people from UK order sticks from India, so it should be ok.....

and if your colleague needs any help regarding the shops i can help with that....:-)

himanshuvohra · « **Reply #28 on:** October 08, 2013, 03:10:41 PM »

Quote from: MD2812 on October 08, 2013, 12:47:25 PM

Out of interest, are their smaller custom companies in India to similar scales of the forum sponsors?

Yes there are some companies
for eg

RNS Larsons: used to be a decent brand a few years ago, but now they are more into customs....as far as my knowledge goes, they make a top grade stick for 90-100 GBP they have it on their website too....

KayGee sports: One of my favourites, lovely people, great knowledge and they would do the same in 100-120 GBP range

himanshuvohra · « **Reply #29 on:** October 08, 2013, 03:13:45 PM »

Quote from: petehosk on October 08, 2013, 01:34:37 PM

My thinking is that I will try to use the best bat suited to me that I can afford.
I do have several SS bats (LE, Gladiator and one from an IPL player) plus other Asian bats. As good as they are (the SS LE is the least impressive of the 3 mentioned, but still a very good bat!) I am still always going to use the best bat that gets me runs! So if it is a choice between the SS LE (even if it did cost me �120) and an AJK (which for example, could be purchased for �350) then I will always use the better quality, better pickup, and better performing bat. i realise that the SS LE may cost less but I would never use a bat purchased purely on value and performance for money alone!
Now I realise that some people have a very strict budget where value for their � is vital!

But if my budget was strictly �120, then I would patiently see what (almost new) bats are in the 'For Sale' section. For example, I picked up a Charlie French Premier Cru which was barely knocked in for �110 and it went like absolutel stink. Also picked up an Adidas Incurza Elite and a BAS Bow T20 for �100 which both went like rockets and were amongst the best bats I have held!
So trying to state that an SS LE is the best value bat you can pick up anywhere, is quite frankly, very blinkered thinking!
It's like saying that the Ford Fiesta or Focus is the best value car you can pick up anywhere! In some ways, it may have some truth in it and there is no denying that they do offer a lot for the money! But who will put it top of their 'most wanted' list?

You have a valid point bud, but what i am talking about is 350 GBP is a big amount for me as it is close to 35000 rupees which is still a huge sum in India...
and the point is i have hardly seen any sponsor quoting 120 GBP for a bat....

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