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[jw17]

Michael Clarke refuses to walk *DOES A 'BROAD'*, edges to slip vs Kumble 2008

Neither would your only batsmen then!

[Alvaro]

Broad didn't edge to slip!

[The_Bird]

Do we need to bring Hansie Cronje into the discussion about cheating?

Every team does it, England used jelly babies, Chucking the ball into the wicket ends to aide reverse swing. It's part of the game but rubbing the ball on your zip pocket is a bit too blatant and silly.

[WalkingWicket37]

Do we need to bring Hansie Cronje into the discussion about cheating?

Every team does it, England used jelly babies, Chucking the ball into the wicket ends to aide reverse swing. It's part of the game but rubbing the ball on your zip pocket is a bit too blatant and silly.

How are jelly babies cheating exactly??

[The_Bird]

How are jelly babies cheating exactly??

They used them to shine the ball using the saliva, similar to how some use cough sweets. That's ball tampering to some extent. Leaving them on the wicket was just funny.

[ProCricketer1982]

How are jelly babies cheating exactly??

It's cheating as it's not natural to have that much sugar in saliva (excluding diabetics), so meaning you are actively doing something un natural to the ball, means it's cheating.

Good old fashioned sweat and shining.

[WalkingWicket37]

It's cheating as it's not natural to have that much sugar in saliva (excluding diabetics), so meaning you are actively doing something un natural to the ball, means it's cheating.

Good old fashioned sweat and shining.

So on your logic you shouldn't be allowed to shine the ball for minutes after a drinks break or tea as there will be more sugar in your saliva than normal?? And diabetic should be banned from playing cricket??
Don't see how it's cheating really but each to their own opinion i suppose

[ProCricketer1982]

So on your logic you shouldn't be allowed to shine the ball for minutes after a drinks break or tea as there will be more sugar in your saliva than normal?? And diabetic should be banned from playing cricket??
Don't see how it's cheating really but each to their own opinion i suppose

Not sure I said anything like that about diabetics but hey ho.

Taking sweets onto the field which have the sole purpose of shining the ball is cheating. Shining the ball at a drinks break shouldn't happen as the umpire should have it. The effects after tea wouldn't last long enough to really make any difference.

And yes, each to their own. Some people are happy to do some things, some are not.

[Chad]

Everyone seems to think I tamper with cricket balls I use in the nets, but it is surprising how much shine you can get on the ball with conventional methods, it just takes a little time. (Spit and sweat) I don't think I've ever purposefully roughed up a ball before, unless I'm trying to scrape off parts that are flaking off old net balls.

I think that 5 penalty runs is a little too lenient a punishment, I think that heavier fines and perhaps even match bans are needed. The international players will always find new, more discreet ways of ball tampering though...

[Cover_Drive]

One thing I just simply don't get is that like laminate bats which are banned, why aren't zip banned on trousers? ICC should be vigilant enough and intellectual enough to know what a fielding side could do with them.

[wasted_talent]

the Pak v SA ODI series due to start tomorrow, any predictions?

I reckon Pak could sneak a win, though it will be a close run series I feel

[Krs]

the Pak v SA ODI series due to start tomorrow, any predictions?

I reckon Pak could sneak a win, though it will be a close run series I feel

Do you know what time it is starting (uk time)?

[wasted_talent]

unfortunately not mate

[LNB]

I think Pakistan will win this series, I would have liked to see Haris Sohail in the team and also Sharjeel Khan who has shown a bit of form, smashed 194 of 124 ball in the President's cup a couple of days ago.

[Gerry SA]

Pakistan have never won an ODI series(home or away) against South Africa.

Out of the 62 ODIs contested by SA/Pak, Pak have won only 20.

But SA are weakened at present. Amla isn't available so Biff will be partnered by Ingram or de Kock.

No Kallis again, balance of the side is a bit off in his absence. Parnell batting at 7 is too high.

Steyn is rested, so we will be fielding both Parnell and Tsotsobe. Neither fill me with much confidence...

Ideally I'd like to have seen Marchant de Lange play, as he's extremely fast and more importantly - he's a high class death bowler.