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[sloggerroz]

Cant really argue with wisdens all time world eleven
1 jack hobbs
2 w.g grace
3 don bradman
4 sachin tendulkar
5 viv richards
6 gary sobers
7 allan knot
8 wasim akram
9 shane warne
10 malcolm marshall
11 sydney barnes

I suppose sydney barnes is the interesting one. Any thoughts?

[sloggerroz]

Should grace be in? What about gilchrist?

[Manormanic]

Cant really argue with wisdens all time world eleven
1 jack hobbs
2 w.g grace
3 don bradman
4 sachin tendulkar
5 viv richards
6 gary sobers
7 allan knot
8 wasim akram
9 shane warne
10 malcolm marshall
11 sydney barnes

I suppose sydney barnes is the interesting one. Any thoughts?

Thought one - it is nearly impossible to compare pre-WW1 with post WW2 given the comparative levels of footage available.  If we're taking pure stats from that period, George Hurst walks in, and I doubt any of you have even heard of him....

Barnes had an amazing record, but there is no way of knowing how he would have coped in a later era.

Grace should be nowhere near - he was a well known cheat and should be replaced by Len Hutton.

Tendulkar, Wasim and Knott are all borderline selections - could just as easily got for any of Ponting, Chappell, Walcott, Miandad, Turner/ Trueman, Holding, Lillee, Hadlee, Khan/ Gilchrist, Sangakkara, Marsh, Engineer, Walcott again... 

[Buzz]

you can swap Kallis in for Tendulkar for me and a load of different keeper options over Allan Knot (Gilchrest, De Villiars etc)

[sloggerroz]

Definatly a lot of legends that didnt get in lara, botham, kallis, murali, hutton, sutcliffe, imran kahn, gavaskar, lillie, hadlee

[WalkingWicket37]

Personally would have gone for Punter or Lara ahead of Tendulkar.


WG Grace wouldn't be in, I'd probably be more inclined to go for Gordon Greenidge instead (and if I wanted someone who didn't walk I'd pick Broad as he can bowl a bit too )

If possible I'd like to see Murali in the side, Kallis would probably deserve a place too.

Could there also be an argument to include Dravid, Gilchrist, Amla, Jayasuria, De Villiers, Lillie, Ajmal, Steyn, Clark, Sangakara, Gavaskar, or Cook (among others, these were just off the top of my head)

[Gingerbusiness]

This is always going to spark some debate.

Wisden must be regarded as the voice of the MCC and therefore, in terms of this, bias towards certain players (W.G.Grace).

Aside from Bradman, Richards and Sobers, I think people will have very different views as to who should, or shouldn't, be in this side.

I grew up as a kid looking at players such as Lara, Warne, Murali, Tendulkar, McGrath, Dravid, Waugh etc... In their respective primes, but I am sure the older, and younger generations would have their opinions.

For example, if you are looking for wicket keepers, Knott over Healy is an interesting one. You also have Jack Russell for pure glove work but if that is not important, and average is, Gilchrist would be a good shout.

[03jaworf]

surely a lot of this depends on opposition/pitch/conditions but could be a case for O'Reilly/Laker to get a spot too. also agree that Grace should be dropped as has already been said he was a known cheat.

[Gingerbusiness]

Could there also be an argument to include Dravid, Gilchrist, Amla, Jayasuria, De Villiers, Lillie, Ajmal, Steyn, Clark, Sangakara, Gavaskar, or Cook (among others, these were just off the top of my head)

Do you mean Stuart Clark? I don't think he even took 100 test wickets?

Cook and Amla have a long way to go for me, but I do like the good healthy debate, and I'd agree and say all three deserve more to be in there than Grace!

[WalkingWicket37]

Do you mean Stuart Clark? I don't think he even took 100 test wickets?

Cook and Amla have a long way to go for me, but I do like the good healthy debate, and I'd agree and say all three deserve more to be in there than Grace!

Yeah if you like, I've had a drink or 5 so only misspelling Clark(e) is an achievement i'd say 

[FattusCattus]

If we're taking pure stats from that period, George Hurst walks in, and I doubt any of you have even heard of him....

Not with that spelling, no 

[Alvaro]

Haha

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[Number 11]

Grace as a player, no. He was a bully and a cheat. Mind you, the umpires wouldn't dare give any of this team out with the thought of WG to answer to.
Just looked up stats for Sydney Barnes and just going by his moustache he's in.
Other bowlers, Laker,Verity,Thomson
Batsman, Gooch, Ponting,Kallis Dravid Gavaskar.

[himanshuvohra]

Many members on this forum debate sachins presence in this team....
But as per me and many other great cricketers he is surely the best batsmen of this era....
Few days back I read a list of a few quotes on sachin by other cricketers...and was floored by the immense respect this guy holds in this cruel world .

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[THERUBIN]

what about the raging bull - curtly ambrose