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[WalkingWicket37]

Let's be subjective about all of this;

We are a service sector country.

India is a manufacturing sector country.

Why? Cost of labour and specialisation of workforce labour skills.

I would assume GM is producing these goods for some Southern Hemisphere reason, but those two bats being sold in the UK market are probably/should be deemed to be grey market goods.

I'm not saying its right. We have traditionalists here who hate to see the dilution of UK brands and good old British manufacturing - myself being one HOWEVER to make money, you need to embrace change. GM, and many other brands, are now looking to do that. I could get into supply chain management etc but I've already been boring enough.

In terms of this, we need to be careful not to accuse bat makers of lower quality. It's just as easy for TK to turn out a poor bat on a bad day (VERY unlikely, but possible) as it is for an Indian batmaker - we know the money is not a motivator in 99% of cases, and the majority of workshops top Indian brands have, rival the ones here.

BUT I agree the language GM use is misleading and I think this is something which may need to be addressed at the 'Nottingham' offices - or at least make the information readily available to those who want it.

Not all coke cola is made in the USA...

But they don't claim it does and clearly advertise on the can/bottle where it was made, whereas GM claim all their bats are made in Nottingham, and don't let you know otherwise...

[Gingerbusiness]

The "industry leading techniques" they are referring to is the DMX/CAD/CAM. Really? An industry leading technique could be concaving willow, could refer to the finish, could refer to the toe guard technology for all we know

And "produced by our own craftsmen and women in our own factory in Nottingham" I wouldn't really call ambiguous. I would... What exactly, and to what stage, are they producing?

Either that or it's false advertising on their website

They also state all bats except the 303 , which has a white polytec coating, has GM NOW and TOETEK.

I'm not saying this GM isn't what it's supposed to be as it does look like a nice piece of willow but it's conflicting from the Aus website BUT this only refers to bats CURRENTLY being sold in Oz. This could be about to change...

I'm not doing this to be annoying or pedantic, I just think we need to be really careful as consumers when considering where our goods come from...


For example, Horse meat anyone?!

[Gingerbusiness]

But they don't claim it does and clearly advertise on the can/bottle where it was made, whereas GM claim all their bats are made in Nottingham, and don't let you know otherwise...

That's very true mate and I totally agree with you on that point - maybe that is about to change. Who knows?

[simonmay5]

This is what it has on the top off the bat

[simonmay5]

But they don't claim it does and clearly advertise on the can/bottle where it was made, whereas GM claim all their bats are made in Nottingham, and don't let you know otherwise...

Looks like gm are celery marking it with made in India under licence

[Number4]

I'm not doing this to be annoying or pedantic, I just think we need to be really careful as consumers when considering where our goods come from...


For example, Horse meat anyone?!

Have you read the Aus website? They state the industry leading techniques under the DMX tab describing this process

http://aus.gm-cricket.com/heritage/technology/dxm.aspx

[WalkingWicket37]

Looks like gm are celery marking it with made in India under licence

They are indeed, it's just their website that's possibly not as forthcoming with the source of their products as it could be

[123*]

Does it have 3D stickers mate? Can't quite tell from the pics?

[simonmay5]

Does it have 3D stickers mate? Can't quite tell from the pics?

No it does not have the 3d stickers

[marcus7]

Yea , i think is bat isn't from england ,as their is no dxm sticker,no made in england sticker and no grading sticker....but anyway,beautiful grains and i hope you enjoy it

[WalkingWicket37]

Yea , i think is bat isn't from england ,as their is no dxm sticker,no made in england sticker and no grading sticker....but anyway,beautiful grains and i hope you enjoy it

The made in India sticker is the giveaway...

[Lefty100]

I'm a huge GM fan and think it is still important for GM to clarify, in the light of information on this thread, that when GM English Willow bats come to say Australia and have DXM stickers but do not have the GM Now treatment and Toe Tek that they are coming from Nottingham UK and not somewhere else. 

[Jaffa]

These look like the same Indian made Octanes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-Gunn-Moore-Octane-F2-DXM-Original-GM-Cricket-Bat-21-19-Grains-/171158571921?pt=UK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM&hash=item27d9d88b91

[WalkingWicket37]

These look like the same Indian made Octanes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-Gunn-Moore-Octane-F2-DXM-Original-GM-Cricket-Bat-21-19-Grains-/171158571921?pt=UK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM&hash=item27d9d88b91

I think you'll find that number 2 is the same bat mate

[Jaffa]

And a very fine thing indeed.

text from the ad...
 `Please note these bats are made by GM India and are genuine Gunn and Moore Bats. Due to the high number of grains the performance on these bats are instant and they both tap up superbly. As you can see from the Pictures they have been very well made and finished with a lovely glow to the willow.`