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[ProCricketer1982]

Who do you play for out of interest ProCricker1982?

Hatherley & reddings

[Nickauger]

Hatherley & reddings
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What league is that bud?

[ProCricketer1982]

Glos league so basically div 4

[Byo]

The strength of the glos wilts and glos 2nd xi divs is certainly pretty poor tbh. Just pointless too as there is nothing to win or lose in 2nd xi cricket.

That is wrong I am afraid mate - there is promotion and relegation withing the 2nd XI leagues, so there is something to play for.

[Nickauger]

That is wrong I am afraid mate - there is promotion and relegation withing the 2nd XI leagues, so there is something to play for.

Agreed. Bristol and somerset 2nd11 league was a very good standard!

[ProCricketer1982]

That is wrong I am afraid mate - there is promotion and relegation withing the 2nd XI leagues, so there is something to play for.

what is there to play for? 2nd xi div x winner.. whoopie do.. Wouldn't it be better to go into your local county div and win a league there and aim to get up the ladder that way??  Standards in 2nd xi cricket won't be higher than the top county divs I don't suspect given they are second teams.

[Nickauger]

what is there to play for? 2nd xi div x winner.. whoopie do.. Wouldn't it be better to go into your local county div and win a league there and aim to get up the ladder that way??  Standards in 2nd xi cricket won't be higher than the top county divs I don't suspect given they are second teams.

Sorry mate but that's wrong. There is promotion and relegation in the 2nd xi league and it means you can play at better grounds.

[Byo]

Sorry mate but you are wrong there.  I think promotion to the league above is something to play for!!!!  OK its still 2nd XI cricket but its promotion to a better standard of 2nd XI cricket, and therefore better grounds.   

Not everyone can play 1st XI cricket, and I think you are being rather demeaning of those that do.

[Nickauger]

Sorry mate but you are wrong there.  I think promotion to the league above is something to play for!!!!  OK its still 2nd XI cricket but its promotion to a better standard of 2nd XI cricket, and therefore better grounds.   

Not everyone can play 1st XI cricket, and I think you are being rather demeaning of those that do.

Here here. Promotion from Bristol and somerset to pre, 2 etc. means a hell of a lot more than promotion from shrubbery 9 to shrubbery 8 for example, which would be the leagues you get stuck in if your 1st team aren't good enough.

[ProCricketer1982]

Here here. Promotion from Bristol and somerset to pre, 2 etc. means a hell of a lot more than promotion from shrubbery 9 to shrubbery 8 for example, which would be the leagues you get stuck in if your 1st team aren't good enough.

Why is it demeaning to those in 2nd teams? Surely being in the county leagues is. Ritter and shows players ability far more than 2xi divs??

Plus, I'm not saying put 2xi's down to the low leagues! I'd start them in the higher leagues. So the top few 2nds go div 1 , next league down divs 2/3 etc. surely no e regards 2nd leagues as a test of level compared to county divs?

[Nickauger]

But who decides where they start? Div 3 or lower is horrendous by the way!

[ProCricketer1982]

But who decides where they start?

Not the clubs as they'll over estimate their ability! Pretty sure you could split it fairly easily though. List out the glos (use that as that's my area) 2nd xi's and then just split them between the divs. For a couple of seasons you have more promotions and delegations to get any incorrect teams sorted and settle it down .

Still 4 teams into each league so the 4 'best' go in div 1, next 4 div 2 etc etc. pretty sure most teams wouldn't be 'too good' and if they are with the increased promotions will be up quickly enough

[Nickauger]

And in the meantime, a waste of 3-4 seasons for the clubs in too low a league, and players will disappear to other clubs and destroy 2nd teams

[ProCricketer1982]

And in the meantime, a waste of 3-4 seasons for the clubs in too low a league, and players will disappear to other clubs and destroy 2nd teams

Not really, the few good 2nds will be in the top 2 divs. The rest from the glos teams I've seen will probably just about survive in divs 3/4/5!!

No idea on Bristol area etc but I'd suspect its similar

[Nickauger]

Look at it like this mate, every team in wepl 1 2nd xi would smash every team in div 2 of the feeder system! Therefore by deduction the prem 1 2nd xi is far stronger than the feeder system into the wepl. In fact almost every team in prem 1 2nd xi would be too strong for the teams in the somerset league if the wepl. Leave it as it is. It is less if a step up then to go up to the 1st team, knowing what sort of wickets to play on etc. professionalism is higher as well. Leave it! I would rather be playing prem 2nd cricket than in any of the feeder leagues!