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GarrettJ

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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2013, 11:31:54 AM »

is this Tendulkar bat a laminate? Not a Performance one but the back looks to have been stuck on???


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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #76 on: November 13, 2013, 11:33:26 AM »

Certainly seems so
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #77 on: November 13, 2013, 11:54:25 AM »

I would like to point out that we are in a privileged position to know how different skills, techniques involved in bat making with the generous input from pod shavers like Ryan. Not many bat makers are transparent about ideas and sort of portray the image of magicians who cannot tell their trade secrets. It's refreshing to see someone like Ryan taking time to involve and inform the general public.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #78 on: November 13, 2013, 12:12:59 PM »

is this Tendulkar bat a laminate? Not a Performance one but the back looks to have been stuck on???





I would not be surprised to see pros using lams, they are looking for the 1%s.
But i'm also sure they hide them at the bottom of the bags when the umpires come around and check them.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2013, 12:15:11 PM »

"However, lighter wood bats are shorter than heavier bats (a baseball bat has a linear weight-to-length ratio referred to as "drop"); drilling out a heavier bat and adding a less dense filling allows the swing speed of a lighter bat with the plate reach of a heavier one, which may allow the batter to make solid contact with pitches more effectively"

what does this bit mean .... get a 4lb long blade bat and cork it to 2.8 and it should improve performance?

My take on it was if you used a 2'8 corked cricket bat (in your example), it would actually perform worse than a normal 2'8 cricket bat. The cork will actually absorb the energy not return it. However in baseball it serves a purpose as lighter bats have to be shorter (no idea why) and to maintain the same length of bat but lighter you have to cork it. Cricket you obviously don't have to make the blade shorter.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2013, 12:17:18 PM »

is this Tendulkar bat a laminate? Not a Performance one but the back looks to have been stuck on???




Looks like grains to me. Seems to a bit off course towards the handle. A lammy would be dead straight.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2013, 12:22:29 PM »

Looks like grains to me. Seems to a bit off course towards the handle. A lammy would be dead straight.
You have a good point there. If you look closely, the line is wavy the whole way and it does not seem to be a lam
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2013, 12:36:39 PM »

look at the bottom of the bat where the inside edge red mark is .... trace back towords teh back of the bat ... its looks like a join and there is a line running all the way up from that.

could be my eyes, im getting old   :(
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2013, 01:51:17 PM »

I know corked bats are illegal in baseball, and I think drilled bats are too, unlike cricket, precisely because it allows you to get a longer reach with a lighter bat. That makes no difference in cricket.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #84 on: November 13, 2013, 06:51:56 PM »

I would like to point out that we are in a privileged position to know how different skills, techniques involved in bat making with the generous input from pod shavers like Ryan. Not many bat makers are transparent about ideas and sort of portray the image of magicians who cannot tell their trade secrets. It's refreshing to see someone like Ryan taking time to involve and inform the general public.

Thanks,  I like to be transparent with everything I do. I thought it would be an interesting topic to post.

I also may be needed a few volunteers to test a couple of lams out. Be nice to get some impartial opinions on the pickup,  finish, performance etc. You'd need to be a forum regular etc to apply :p
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2013, 06:53:09 PM »

is this Tendulkar bat a laminate? Not a Performance one but the back looks to have been stuck on???




I'd say that was more or a "double wood" laminate.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2013, 06:54:35 PM »

And it isn't the bat makers job to police what is done with the bat after selling it.

It's illegal to hit someone over the head with a Type A bat.. Is it the bat makers job to make sure the customer doesn't use it for that too?

Think that's somewhat off track, what im getting at is that if the bats themselves are not recognised as legal then why sell them? surely by producing and selling you are contributing to the issue? that's just my point of view.

Nothing to do with violence on the pitch, that's something that is completely out of a batmakers hands regardless.  the production of laminates is within their control.
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2013, 06:55:56 PM »

That said, I like the way ryan is being transparent as many bat makers are not

I just don't like lams
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2013, 06:59:42 PM »

I will try one for you Ryan no drama at all there bud
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Re: Performance laminates...
« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2013, 07:07:31 PM »

so these bats will not be for sale? i think people on here jump to the wrong conclusions when points are made, what im saying is... if you sell a laminated bat to joe bloggs "for net use only" knowing that it is illegal to use in a game, how do you plan to make sure the bat isnt used in a game? you cant! so therefore, isnt it irresponsible to produce such bats?

If someone turns up on a sat and starts blasting boundaries with a railway sleeper of a bat, is this fair?

You sir are a complete chopper. That is all.
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