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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2013, 12:32:17 PM »

Trott's all ways had a weakness with the short pitched delivery.

Back when he played for Boland. As soon as he came in, he'd get bombed.

His inability to score freely through cover means if the opposition bowl fullish outside off. Trott gets tied down. Then you bang it in and he's hopeless.

Sounds so simple really!

Strange it's taken so long to come to the fore front of his batting.

Certainly making up for it by targeting him now!
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2013, 12:38:30 PM »

Sounds so simple really!

Strange it's taken so long to come to the fore front of his batting.

Certainly making up for it by targeting him now!
Not really. There aren't many 145kph bowlers I world cricket.

Trott's struggles have been against Steyn and Morkel. Harris and Johnson.

Top class bowlers.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2013, 12:56:43 PM »

Not really. There aren't many 145kph bowlers I world cricket.

Trott's struggles have been against Steyn and Morkel. Harris and Johnson.

Top class bowlers.

Top class *RAPID* bowlers.  Too many fast bowlers bowling low to mid 80's won't bring the flaw out as much.  Some of the short stuff on show was bodyline-esque...

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2013, 01:15:11 PM »

Trott's technical issues are due to him moving too much at the point of delivery and his on the walk trigger. As pointed out, it isn't new, if you watch video's of him on youtube from his batting in Aus last time around he did the same thing, just moved a little earlier and was still at the point of delivery.
The major change is that he now goes too far across his stumps (in my view) which is why he is getting out down the leg side a load.

It will be interesting to see if he sorts this by the second innings - he hasn't sorted it in the last 2 months... so I am not hopeful! :(
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2013, 01:34:19 PM »

having just watched the lowlights on cricinfo am i the only one who feels the bowling wasnt all that special? People raving about how amazing johnson was. i only watched up til 1.30 live this morning and they were bowling well but some of the wicket balls just look average, the build up etc may have been better

cook - decent ball
carberry - decent ball
trott - strangled down the leg side.
KP - pretty average ball and pretty average shot. should have been 4.
bell - average ball and poorly played
prior - average ball and poorly played
root - average ball and shocking shot at 89/6. what was he thinking?
swann - average ball - not much danger. poor shot/ maybe a touch unlucky
broad - attacking at the end so can let him off
tremlett - tailender getting a rising ball - decent ball, played averagly.

lyon looked like he wasnt bowling brilliantly and johnson may have been hostile but he wasnt exactly taking wickets with jaffas was he! harris bowled with good control and didnt see much of siddle.

so out of 10 wickets 3 were decent balls. the rest were average balls which shouldnt really have caused issues but were poorly played. Yes england are up against it but there is no reason we cant dig ourselves out of the hole. rip through the aussies and get our heads down playing proper shots
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2013, 01:38:23 PM »

It's not like England to start a series badly is it.......

Makes me wonder how many times they need this kind of wake up call before someone says; ''hang on a minute, let's be ready from day one for once.''

Fingers crossed for a massive 500-1 score next time we bat. 
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2013, 01:46:29 PM »

our best bet is the wicket flattens out and slows up...and it rains...
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2013, 02:00:31 PM »

Flattens out?! Thats Brisbane runway..... haha

Both teams gifted wickets!

Johnson had his moments of averageness, but the fact that he doesn't know where its going either probably unsettles the best of batsmen.

Some good balls got wickets, but the Aussies turned the screw and started a rot / collapse, personally I think thats as much a skill as hitting off stump.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2013, 02:14:51 PM »

having just watched the lowlights on cricinfo am i the only one who feels the bowling wasnt all that special?

This was my point re Johnson and his bowling. That spell where he came round the wicket was good with lots of bounce and aggression and along with the pressure built, in part by poor mental fortitude of the English batsmen, but mainly by Siddle, harris and Lyon. It meant Johnson could get those wickets because the English rhubarb wafters were feeling the pressure. I just don't think it was that special from him alone. So for me it's more well done to the Aussie bowling unit as a whole. 

Overall though I think capitulation must have been the order of the day, perhaps we'll be less Gaulish tonight... That said - days/sessions like that do make test and especially Ashes cricket the best format!



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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2013, 02:49:08 PM »

looking at some of the wickets the bounce seems to of unsettled some on both teams

these days most wickets are flat and against the bowlers nice to see some pace and carry in this track
England will go under in this game and it's set up to be a better series than the home one

I always thought 3-0 flattered us a bit.....and our batters have been bailed out by our top class bowlers many times in recent years.


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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2013, 02:55:30 PM »



I always thought 3-0 flattered us a bit.....and our batters have been bailed out by our top class bowlers many times in recent years.

Agreed. The batters have been saved by late order runs and the bowling efforts in many recent matches
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2013, 03:32:10 PM »

So when is this topic being merged with the 'village cricket' one?
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2013, 03:41:26 PM »

Don't think many of the England batsmen will look on this with pride in the future - Carberry grafted and was eventually dismissed by Johnson's one bit of true inspiration, and Cook got a beauty from Harris.  Other than that though, it was a series of average to terrible shots, together with a bit of fortune for the bowlers (though Trott's strangle, which is a methos of dismissal that I would normally want banned, was justice for his stupid technique!).  This will be the second successive Ashes between poor sides I fear.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2013, 05:11:43 PM »

Its also worth mentioning (if not already been) that this is the fastest wicket of the series.. Somehow get the feeling that its going to be a lot different in the other test matches.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #89 on: November 22, 2013, 05:20:27 PM »

So when is this topic being merged with the 'village cricket' one?

True, as someone else said though. Second ashes series between two mediocre teams capable of the odd majestic innings/bowling display but also equally capable of collapse.
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