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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #120 on: November 23, 2013, 07:53:35 AM »

He certainly wasn't at his best, but it's a lot tougher as a finger spinner when the batsmen have free reign to take you on.


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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #121 on: November 23, 2013, 08:07:56 AM »

Hardly. Johnson is known to blow hot and cold. This will be the quickest track of the series, and Johnson's history may mean he is all ovr the shop be the end of the series potentially.

When is the next time Trott will be up against a 90+ mph bowler?

I'm pretty sure that Johnson, whilst he won't bowl like that all the time, should still be excellent in 2 of the remaining tests at least.

Trott will face that pace the next time we play South Africa... Pakistan also have some rapid lads coming through, whilst India have a new fast bowler in the high 80s I believe.
I like Trott, but I think he may have just had that watershed 'retire' moment.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2013, 08:13:18 AM »

Hardly. Johnson is known to blow hot and cold. This will be the quickest track of the series, and Johnson's history may mean he is all ovr the shop be the end of the series potentially.

When is the next time Trott will be up against a 90+ mph bowler?

Roach? Certainly can bowl the short ball well.

If he doesn't struggle against pace then he's been struggling against spin.
Will Perth not be the quickest track  ;)
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2013, 08:19:41 AM »


I like Trott, but I think he may have just had that watershed 'retire' moment.

Root has struggled against Australia too. Is it time he retired?

There'll come a time when Trott bats when Johnson isn't bowling, hopefully then he'll get a bit of confidence back.

England will be a lot weaker without Trott.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2013, 08:21:09 AM »

Trott is, and this is a technical term, all over the shop.  Worrying that his mental game, for so long his strength, has left him...

Carberry - so unlucky, felt for him as he looked more comfortable than Cook...
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #125 on: November 23, 2013, 08:25:48 AM »

Hardly. Johnson is known to blow hot and cold. This will be the quickest track of the series, and Johnson's history may mean he is all ovr the shop be the end of the series potentially.

When is the next time Trott will be up against a 90+ mph bowler?
Trott got out in identical fashion in Lords to Ryan Harris. So that doesn't really support your theory... ;)
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2013, 08:30:51 AM »

I see Pietersen is still playing even though he has an issue with left arm spinners...

Who would replace Trott?

Whoever has stepped up in the last few years has struggles to adapt to Test cricket. Only Root has shown their composure to it, and even now is having a wobble.

It the summer, everyone on this forum hated Broad and didn't see why he should be in the team. Now that the Aussies hate him and he is wearing an Ayrtek, everyone loves him. Give him a bit of time and ask some of the other batsmen to step up a bit too and all will be fine.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #127 on: November 23, 2013, 08:34:11 AM »

There is no replacement on this tour. Bairstow is probably worse.
They'll stick with trott for all 5 games
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #128 on: November 23, 2013, 08:40:10 AM »

Why start dropping players?... You haven't lost the first test yet... Geez :(
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #129 on: November 23, 2013, 10:03:56 AM »

According to sky, Tremlett is bowling the same pace (give 2mph up or down) as he was in the last away Ashes, all the talk about him being slow is rubbish.
Rubbish, he was hitting up about 140kph last tour now is consistently at 125, that is the pace McGrath bowled at.. for a bloke who's 6'10" and built like a brick shithouse its pathetic
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #130 on: November 23, 2013, 10:49:42 AM »

Rubbish, he was hitting up about 140kph last tour now is consistently at 125, that is the pace McGrath bowled at.. for a bloke who's 6'10" and built like a brick shithouse its pathetic

He is big isn't he. I wonder what mountain he was chiselled from?
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #131 on: November 23, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »

This will be the quickest track of the series,

Incorrect.

Perth is way faster and bouncier.

Melbourne is pretty good too.

Adelaide is a road and Sydney is a spinners deck.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #132 on: November 23, 2013, 11:10:48 AM »

Aus could of finished us off by scheduling Brisbane and Perth as tests 1 and 2. They would of been 2-0 before England got out of second gear.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #133 on: November 23, 2013, 03:47:29 PM »

I was only going on what the Verdict stated yesterday, about the pace of the track.

Even a quick bowler like Harris will be easier to play once you have faced quicker in Johnson.

I am confident Trott will be better as we go through the tests. He is working hard and it only takes one bit of luck to get back in form.

England have been notorious slow starters in series, so there is no need to jump on everyone's back so quickly.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2013, 04:57:58 PM »

Agreed. We will lose this test and have no one to blame but our batters. However, no need to throw the babies out with the bath water, let's see what the second test brings - we could wake up and win that, then it's all to play for!
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