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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #180 on: December 07, 2013, 11:19:26 AM »


Easby i see your reading this what it look like live at the ground mate

Absolutely abysmal, had a quick read through some of the comments. Just been a spineless performance in all phases. It's a test of ifs and buts, root and Carberry drops were very expensive.

Today's batting performance is probably the worst I've seen in a very long time. Bell just looked pure class, Carberry dug in, left the ball well and punished the bad ball and looked set for a ton until Warner pulled off a stunner. As soon as he went that was it, pack of cards. Our tail starts at 6 at present the the Aussies know that.

Put your money on a 5-0 whitewash, after seeing it up close I can't see what changes we can make that would make a difference. Even our supposedly stong suit (bowling) looks pedestrian at best compared to the Aussies.

Unfortunately for me I've paid ££££ to watch this shower of (No Swearing Please) and have to put myself through it once again tomorrow and then at Perth - can't wait!
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #181 on: December 07, 2013, 11:21:20 AM »

Have you got me my stuff yet Easo fekk England mate....
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #182 on: December 07, 2013, 11:22:34 AM »

Pipe down - you might be lucky if I can be arsed to make the trip to Meulumans in Perth
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #183 on: December 07, 2013, 11:25:41 AM »

Hey you could do a forum shop mate????
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #184 on: December 07, 2013, 12:11:03 PM »

I said it before and I'll say it again. England need to swap root and bell. I don't care what bells stats are at 3 he is the only one capable of dealing with Johnson atm. I don't understand him coming in when England are in the poop

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #185 on: December 07, 2013, 12:46:44 PM »

I see Monty was using a Shark bat today
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #186 on: December 07, 2013, 12:48:36 PM »

I said it before and I'll say it again. England need to swap root and bell. I don't care what bells stats are at 3 he is the only one capable of dealing with Johnson atm. I don't understand him coming in when England are in the poop

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Bell wants to come in at 3, management prefer him (for now) at 5.  That said, I'm pretty sure they want Root to bad every position 1-7, so stay tuned...
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #187 on: December 07, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »

Bell wants to come in at 3, management prefer him (for now) at 5.  That said, I'm pretty sure they want Root to bad every position 1-7, so stay tuned...
Hopefully the management see sense soon and have Root carry the drinks!
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #188 on: December 07, 2013, 03:48:00 PM »

We have seen lengthy analysis of what the Aussies are doing right and what England are doing wrong and to some extent some of the points are right and some are wrong. But basically as i put in an earlier post the Aussies have got into our heads, they are in their home country and they are showing a hunger and a desire to win the greatest prize in world cricket. We on the other hand underestimated the opposition and thought we were just going to go through the formalities and return home with the ashes. We were abruptly shown in the 1st test that this was not going to be the case, however it doesn't seem as if we have learned anything from that 1st test. I am a fiercely proud England supporter and if defeat comes against a superior team, but in that defeat England have given their all then I will gladly applaud the victors and rightly so. But come on 3 innings and we haven't even scored 600 runs we aren't even competing, these guys who are representing us are all of a far superior ability than all of us writing on here will ever be, but to me you can have all the ability in the world but if you have got no stomach for the fight that ability will be wasted.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #189 on: December 07, 2013, 05:03:38 PM »

Jeez you blokes are tough on carberry....... fair enough shot to a bit of a long hop.... decent catch. 

The ball cook got, early, will get anyone, not much the batter csn do there. 

As a massive kp fan, been disappointed, siddles got him what 9 times now? Thr plan couldnt be more clear, did someone say 3 card trick

Check my posts since brisbane, bell @ 3 is a no brainer.  Why you would want your best bat coming in at 3for no many is beyond me.  I heard england were concerned with grouping root, stokes, prior in the middle order.  If your worried, pick someone else?

Everyone wants to dump prior, and, more is expected of keepers with the bat post gilchrist era, but ask yourself is prior the best keeper in england? If so, he stays,  picking a keeper other thsn the best gloveman is dangerous. If he's not, see above.  This picking the keeper who is the best batsman of the keepers is rubbish.

Stop blaming the blokes batting below 7 for getting cleaned out.  Theres not much  a tail can do agsinst extreme pace. Broad has played really well, just misjudged this one. 

Anderson (pamela?) Has always been  a 'head dropper' when things dont go his way, needs to lift. Broad always tries hard.  Cant believe bresnan wasnt picked, stokes (currently) isnt good enough with either bat or ball to warrant selection.   

Theres still plenty of scope for this match to be drawn, the pitch is still magnificent for batting. You blokes order in the coffins way to easily!  Cook csn bat for a day (remind me to buy a book) as csn bell, kp and carberry by the look of him.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #190 on: December 07, 2013, 05:19:13 PM »

Jeez you blokes are tough on carberry....... fair enough shot to a bit of a long hop.... decent catch. 

The ball cook got, early, will get anyone, not much the batter csn do there. 

As a massive kp fan, been disappointed, siddles got him what 9 times now? Thr plan couldnt be more clear, did someone say 3 card trick

Check my posts since brisbane, bell @ 3 is a no brainer.  Why you would want your best bat coming in at 3for no many is beyond me.  I heard england were concerned with grouping root, stokes, prior in the middle order.  If your worried, pick someone else?

Everyone wants to dump prior, and, more is expected of keepers with the bat post gilchrist era, but ask yourself is prior the best keeper in england? If so, he stays,  picking a keeper other thsn the best gloveman is dangerous. If he's not, see above.  This picking the keeper who is the best batsman of the keepers is rubbish.

Stop blaming the blokes batting below 7 for getting cleaned out.  Theres not much  a tail can do agsinst extreme pace. Broad has played really well, just misjudged this one. 

Anderson (pamela?) Has always been  a 'head dropper' when things dont go his way, needs to lift. Broad always tries hard.  Cant believe bresnan wasnt picked, stokes (currently) isnt good enough with either bat or ball to warrant selection.   

Theres still plenty of scope for this match to be drawn, the pitch is still magnificent for batting. You blokes order in the coffins way to easily!  Cook csn bat for a day (remind me to buy a book) as csn bell, kp and carberry by the look of him.

The only victory England can get  is to bat for 2 days and break Johnson's confidence (a 0-60 off loads of overs will do it) and break Harris and maybe Watson too :(

Don't like wanting injuries but it'd be nice to make them break down and force them to think about things a little. Game went just after lunch yesterday so it's now about the draw and breaking Aussie quicks.

Johnson's been good and you wouldn't see me lasting more than one ball against his short ball but these are pros and supposed to be the best we have so he shouldn't be that hard to see off as he's bowling short spells.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #191 on: December 07, 2013, 05:56:22 PM »

Everyone wants to dump prior, and, more is expected of keepers with the bat post gilchrist era, but ask yourself is prior the best keeper in england? If so, he stays,  picking a keeper other thsn the best gloveman is dangerous. If he's not, see above.  This picking the keeper who is the best batsman of the keepers is rubbish.

No where near the the best glovesman in the country and neither's Bairstow, but like you say they won't pick anyone else because of their lack of batting.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #192 on: December 07, 2013, 05:59:13 PM »

No where near the the best glovesman in the country and neither's Bairstow, but like you say they won't pick anyone else because of their lack of batting.

Bairstow has the potential to be the best keeper-batsman in the world, but he's not going to get any better without playing. He needs a season for Yorkshire,then maybe a winter overseas, then review.

He is currently is as a batsman who keeps a bit and I'd say there is a number between him and the England keeper spot.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #193 on: December 07, 2013, 06:18:43 PM »

To be honest I can't see there being many. At the current time the only other person I could have seen in the keeping/reserve keeper role for this series is Davies.

Youngsters coming through, I'm not sure about many other counties but at Hampshire we have Adam Wheater who is looking good but in a very similar to England in a way that he is pushing out Michael Bates who from what I've seen of him is the best glovesman in the country, but unfortunately is still in the process of improving his batting. Again similar to England, in some games we've had Wheater in purely as a batsman with Bates keeping.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #194 on: December 07, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »

Johnson's doing well at the moment, he has ran through the English top order AND opened the scoring for Sunderland
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