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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2014, 08:11:31 PM »
Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on January 16, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
There are also a lot of 'good technique' players who look good but also fail to live upto it but still get a gig as they 'look the part'.. as well as can't hack it when they move up. It's all a balance, if it weren't you would have every member of the test squad looking and playing the same. some ugly players might well play far better at a higher level than lower because the ball comes on more, wickets are better etc etc.

No, technique is more more important the higher you go up. Good technique doesn't mean same technique.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2014, 08:18:38 PM »
So your saying you don't get sloggers higher up? Absolute crap in my opinion, I've seen plenty of sloggers in northants prem/div 1 and in WEPL now. They are just slightly better sloggers than lower down, better eye/reaction.

A good batsmen will score runs no matter what league they are in. Pollard is a slogger, Sammy etc all are top pros.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #107 on: March 06, 2014, 12:45:04 PM »
Nice to see you've started a craze, Paul. Laver now offering Butterfly customs for £250!!
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #108 on: March 06, 2014, 05:17:44 PM »
Quote from: Alvaro on March 06, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
Nice to see you've started a craze, Paul. Laver now offering Butterfly customs for £250!!

Hmmmm think I better put my prices up, what do reckon chaps
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #109 on: March 06, 2014, 05:49:20 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 06, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
Another way of increasing profit-margins, I've heard. ;)

Yes that's a way I suppose, trouble is I am not in it for that I don't want to have to rely on anybody in the process if I can help it and want to continue to be solely responsible for the process from start to finish. I know I have handles made at the min but that will change eventually. If I can just get it to where I am just relying on my willow supplier that would be great as I don't have enough years in me to benefit from growing my own I don't reckon. Plus I get incredible satisfaction from seeing it all start from a raw cleft and see it then evolve and grow I to a lovely finished item.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #110 on: March 06, 2014, 06:30:52 PM »
Quote from: Aldred Cricket Bats on March 06, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
Hmmmm think I better put my prices up, what do reckon chaps
I'd sooner buy a butterfly from you knowing you're making it because you love doing it not just to double your profit on a piece of willow! I'm incredibly happy with mine and even more so because you went to the effort to find the right cleft for me, although I'm sure others would do this.

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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #111 on: March 06, 2014, 07:03:05 PM »
Quote from: CameronPye94 on March 06, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
£250!?!?  :o

Really cheeky if you ask me. Sure a good batmaker is worth paying for but it's probably cost them a minimal amount compared to sourcing a G1 or 2 .
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #112 on: March 08, 2014, 12:48:42 PM »
Quote from: Aldred Cricket Bats on March 06, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
Yes that's a way I suppose, trouble is I am not in it for that I don't want to have to rely on anybody in the process if I can help it and want to continue to be solely responsible for the process from start to finish. I know I have handles made at the min but that will change eventually. If I can just get it to where I am just relying on my willow supplier that would be great as I don't have enough years in me to benefit from growing my own I don't reckon. Plus I get incredible satisfaction from seeing it all start from a raw cleft and see it then evolve and grow I to a lovely finished item.

Good man. I hope to be able to come and see you soon.

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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #113 on: March 08, 2014, 12:49:55 PM »

Do you remember James Laver working at Leicester, Paul?
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #114 on: March 08, 2014, 01:17:26 PM »
No I don't what year would that have been
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #115 on: March 08, 2014, 01:20:55 PM »
Quote from: Aldred Cricket Bats on March 08, 2014, 01:17:26 PM
No I don't what year would that have been

I'm told it was around the time Leicestershire won the Championship. 1996?
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #116 on: March 08, 2014, 01:23:00 PM »
Quote from: uknsaunders on March 06, 2014, 07:03:05 PM
Really cheeky if you ask me. Sure a good batmaker is worth paying for but it's probably cost them a minimal amount compared to sourcing a G1 or 2 .

I suppose the tough thing for James is that he has to ship his willow out to New Zealand then ship it back to sell so that's got to put your prices up. This has always been my doubt about bats that have been shipped in from India or Pakistan that are being sold here for £80 - £150 for what you are told players and grade 1 as it is not financially possible after all the shipping import duties etc to do it and make a profit, at least James prices reflect what he is having to cover and its honest. That's where I am determined not to change is what I get is what I sell to you and am happy to keep it as transparent to the customer as possible.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #117 on: March 08, 2014, 01:24:00 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 08, 2014, 01:20:55 PM
I'm told it was around the time Leicestershire won the Championship. 1996?

Oh ok well that was in my time didn't come across him though at that time I am afraid, I wish I had I must say
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #118 on: March 08, 2014, 01:27:57 PM »
Quote from: Aldred Cricket Bats on March 08, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Oh ok well that was in my time didn't come across him though at that time I am afraid, I wish I had I must say

Apparently M&H was at Grace Road. I only recently found out. I was in Uni in Leicester at that time, but had lost interest in cricket.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #119 on: March 08, 2014, 04:15:48 PM »
On the L&W website, Greg MacMillan says that at least seven of the Leics. Championship winning side used bats made by Laver.
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