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[Buzz]

the reason I ask if you have a relationship with Shrey is because you have come on here, only posted in one topic with some confidence about a business which most on here know very little.

it is fair to the sponsors of this forum to know who they are speaking to.

it is apparent that the shrey business made the old style lid, which most on here would not have known.

you are clearly proud of the product which is great, the have been the market leading lid for years.

 

[Vic Nicholas]

the reason I ask if you have a relationship with Shrey is because you have come on here, only posted in one topic with some confidence about a business which most on here know very little.

it is fair to the sponsors of this forum to know who they are speaking to.

it is apparent that the shrey business made the old style lid, which most on here would not have known.

you are clearly proud of the product which is great, the have been the market leading lid for years.

Buzz, what we have to consider here is the facts.

The facts are, as soon as Masuri announced that they would be ditching the popular traditional styled helmet in favour of this idiotic design, virtually ALL the international players who were Masuri users have DUMPED Masuri and have voted with their feet by defecting to Shrey.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that Shrey will soon be rivalling Albion as the most popular helmet used.

It also tells me that the recent changes will ensure that Masuri will be bankrupt within two years and will end up as nothing more than a footnote in cricket equipment history, much like Saint Peter who were all the rage in the late 70's.

God bless Shrey for having the courage to stand up to the corrupt fat cats.

The international players have spoken - and it is Shrey they support.

[Buzz]

I understand what you are saying, but shrey won't be allowed to sell their lids in the uk, other than if people buy them direct from India.

I can't comment on the future of Masuri, other than to say I believe their new lids are worse in the flesh than in the pics! but people need to make their own minds up. They have put their necks on the line and other than Adidas no one else has released their attempts to meet the new regulations.

[roco]

Will be interesting to see where shrey go when the regs come in as it's a mute point till then

But if they continue to sell a product that does not meet standards will retailers still sell them and is there anything that can be done to them for selling an unregulated product?

[tim2000s]

If the ICC will mandate the use of helmets that meet the required regulation, International players won't be allowed to use Shrey helmets. What will they then do?

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[Vic Nicholas]

If the ICC will mandate the use of helmets that meet the required regulation, International players won't be allowed to use Shrey helmets. What will they then do?

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They will point to this:

SHREY CRICKET HELMET 2014

...and the corrupt ICC will crumble...

The BCCI will support Shrey and every other  association will be snookered.

Rule #1 - you can never beat the BCCI.

[procricket]

International players will always be allowed to use what they want.

Why is there so much anti other helmets.

They seem to have done there job and the better players facing faster balls still use them..

[tim2000s]

Question for Ayrtek really. At the moment, pros can wear what they like as the new standard hasn't been published. Looking at that video, the grill would hit the neck during impact so I'm not sure it does pass. Once the new standard is properly released, do international players get to wear what they want in ICC competitions? That's not what was said earlier...

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[roco]

I guess we will se of icc have anything between there legs which of bcci gets involved will shrivel to raisins as usual but I hope they stand ground for once

[Vic Nicholas]

Ask yourself this:

Has even ONE international player over the last 20 years facing Ambrose, Walsh, Waqar, Akram, Akhtar, Lee, Johnson, Donald etc etc that has been hit on their Masuri helmet been injured?

Not one you say?

Well, how can the UK nanny state forcing their diatribe policies of "safety" on international players from other countries?

If the English players want to look like complete idiots wearing the new Masuri's, then that is entirely their problem, but don't expect any South African, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani and soon enough, Australian to suffer the indignity that the English players will endure because of their corrupt system.

It simply isn't going to happen.

Now for Tommy from Ayrtek:

Have you ever met/seen any representatives from FORMA at any of these safety meetings over the years?

Did you know that they have never even passed the old, out dated safety requirements?

Has Dohni, Tendulkar or any other Indian test and Ranji trophy level player ever been forced to stop wearing their non compliant helmets?

Pigs might fly.

The BCCI will simply laugh in the faces of the ECCB/ICC.

[Vic Nicholas]

Question for Ayrtek really. At the moment, pros can wear what they like as the new standard hasn't been published. Looking at that video, the grill would hit the neck during impact so I'm not sure it does pass. Once the new standard is properly released, do international players get to wear what they want in ICC competitions? That's not what was said earlier...

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It is only "touching the neck" because it is not fastened with a strap as you would with a helmet on a skull.

That helmet passes every time.

You are just crying because you have to soon wear those ridiculous plastic rimmed toilet seats on your head.

I do not blame you for being angry...but, do not expect for even one second that anyone else in the world will wear that rubbish...especially here in Australia!

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Until the standard is published and in the open public arena I can't really go into too much depth for obvious reasons.

The video shown, at what speed was the ball fired? If the helmet passed and all is fine with it why has time/money/resources been spend redesigning it?

Players will always have the option to wear what they want but may have to sign a disclaimer so that the company isn't at fault if any injury occurs.

FYI Viv there have been 40+ incidents simce 2004 according to info we were presented at BSI meeting.

I would like to point out that the new standard has been worked upon to prove the safety offered to people playing the game, not to line the pockets of a cricket helmet company! If better levels of protection are offered to players surely this is a positive thing?

All the companies are doing is reacting to a problem laid out in front of them and coming up with what the seem the best possible solution.

If you want to wear something that has been tested in a lab and proven to keep you safer in the event of being hit then that's entirely upto you. As the sport evolves so will the equipment being used, if you still want to wear pads with buckles in them and gloves that have dimples then great fact of the matter is change is occurring you can either embrace it or ignore it that is something that no one can force upon you as your right as a consumer.

[Vic Nicholas]

Until the standard is published and in the open public arena I can't really go into too much depth for obvious reasons.

The video shown, at what speed was the ball fired? If the helmet passed and all is fine with it why has time/money/resources been spend redesigning it?

Players will always have the option to wear what they want but may have to sign a disclaimer so that the company isn't at fault if any injury occurs.

FYI Viv there have been 40+ incidents simce 2004 according to info we were presented at BSI meeting.

Tom, you are a good man, and I respect and value your insight that you bring to this forum as it is invaluable to get an insiders view on things.

However, with the bowlers bowling at 90 plus miles an hour at international level, yet of these "40+ incidents since 2004" neither you (or anyone else) can cite even ONE example of an international player being injured while wearing a Masuri helmet that was directly attributable to a failure of the Masuri helmet to protect the wearer.

Not one. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Nichevo.

So we are expected to believe that we recreational cricketers who face guys that struggle to hit 70mph are in some kind of danger?

That my friend is just nanny state scare mongering with NO basis in fact.

I do realise that you are an unbiased observer in all this, as you no doubt have high hopes that your revolutionary Aytek design will usurp the establish brands and become the new market leader due to complying with regs...but, I am also certain that we will revisit this thread in a years time and I shall be proven correct when the UK government/ICC/ECCB troika fail to make any headway with the rest of the cricketing world led by the BCCI.

We are merely engaging in semantics, because NOTHING will really change.

[i12breakfree]

Wow..what a spicy thread
Leaving Shrey aside, why have we not heard from GM, GN, Albion, Kook etc regarding their design changes for these new regulations ?

[WalkingWicket37]

Wow..what a spicy thread
Leaving Shrey aside, why have we not heard from GM, GN, Albion, Kook etc regarding their design changes for these new regulations ?

It wouldn't surprise me if yet withdraw from the helmet market once the new regulations are in tbh.