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[Vic Nicholas]

Wow..what a spicy thread
Leaving Shrey aside, why have we not heard from GM, GN, Albion, Kook etc regarding their design changes for these new regulations ?

Why?

Because they are sleeping easy knowing that nothing will come of it.

This is all a hoax foisted upon you UK citizens by a desperate and dying government struggling for relevancy.

Book mark this thread and you will see I was right.

[tim2000s]

Ask yourself this:

Has even ONE international player over the last 20 years facing Ambrose, Walsh, Waqar, Akram, Akhtar, Lee, Johnson, Donald etc etc that has been hit on their Masuri helmet been injured?

Not one you say?

Well, how can the UK nanny state forcing their diatribe policies of "safety" on international players from other countries?

If the English players want to look like complete idiots wearing the new Masuri's, then that is entirely their problem, but don't expect any South African, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani and soon enough, Australian to suffer the indignity that the English players will endure because of their corrupt system.

It simply isn't going to happen.

Now for Tommy from Ayrtek:

Have you ever met/seen any representatives from FORMA at any of these safety meetings over the years?

Did you know that they have never even passed the old, out dated safety requirements?

Has Dohni, Tendulkar or any other Indian test and Ranji trophy level player ever been forced to stop wearing their non compliant helmets?

Pigs might fly.

The BCCI will simply laugh in the faces of the ECCB/ICC.

I don't know what Chanderpaul was wearing when he was knocked out by Brett Lee, and I'm pretty sure Ponting was wearing an Albion when the grille cut his face from a Harmy bouncer. In addition, that immensely quick bowler, Dominic Cork put Kieron Pollard out of action by squeezing a ball between the grill and peak (looked like a masuri, may have been a shrey or forma) off an English pitch of all things.

So, yes, these injuries have occurred, to International players.

And the second question, who came up with the idea of changes? Sorry, not the British government, however much you dislike them, but an enquiry by the ICC medical panel.... The British just updated the safety standard they used following this report.

So, there's plenty of evidence counter to what you've discussed. Perhaps it's not only us prejudiced English who need to ensure they have done their homework correctly!


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[Ayrtek Cricket]

Viv

Videos were shown to the committee of such incidents as it happens to highlight the areas of suggested weakness.

Plenty of evidence to support the new standard as without this the BSI wouldn't have sanctioned the resources to update the standard.

[roco]

Nothing will change as long as icc have as much balls as a barbie doll

If icc stand up then things may change but until then not much point in arguing as it's all a little pointless but fun watching people get backs up over nothing

[thecord]

So looking at what Shrey are doing Masuri had no protection over their helmet design whatsoever?

[Vic Nicholas]

I notice after this incident, Root started wearing a Masuri!!!

Joe Root gets ball wedged in grill of helmet

[thecord]

However, with the bowlers bowling at 90 plus miles an hour at international level, yet of these "40+ incidents since 2004" neither you (or anyone else) can cite even ONE example of an international player being injured while wearing a Masuri helmet that was directly attributable to a failure of the Masuri helmet to protect the wearer.

Not one. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Nichevo.

McCullum facing Brett Lee in BBL?

[tim2000s]

So looking at what Shrey are doing Masuri had no protection over their helmet design whatsoever?

I expect it is the usual issue of copyright/patents being ignored in certain countries. The best they can do is stop sales in countries where IP violations take place and are addressable in court.

And yes, at that point Vic, there probably wasn't much choice. Move from a Forma to someone else's Masuri....

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[GarrettJ]

So these are just masuri helmets?

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Why?

Because they are sleeping easy knowing that nothing will come of it.

This is all a hoax foisted upon you UK citizens by a desperate and dying government struggling for relevancy.

Book mark this thread and you will see I was right.

Not 100% correct tbh Viv, they haven't marketed anything as they haven't released anything to comply as yet. I'm sure they are working on it for release in 2014-15 though. As with all companies that sell a cricket helmet we are all working in the best interests of the people wearing them by improving the safety a helmet offers.

It won't just be the UK as the International Cricket Council isn't just the governing body of the UK as I'm sure you know.

[The_Bird]

So these are just masuri helmets?

The Masuri shape isn't protected by copyright so they are just a generic shape that anyone can copy I think.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

So these are just masuri helmets?

From my understanding TK are the company that manufacturer(d) the Masuri Test helmet range and are now doing so under their own brand name Shrey.

In a similar way the Masuri/slazenger helmets were the same product but with a few minor changes such as diff coloured ear pads/sweatpads and the obvious branding on the rear/grille.

As one company winds down/discontinues the model another takes in on to market themselves.

[jwebber86]

i just happened to be watching some cricket videos on youtube and cam across brett lee bowling to alex tudor.

Cricket - Brett Lee Smashes Alex Tudor's Skull

i reckon that alex is wearing a masuri helmet, (about 1.06 is a slow motion part and you get to see the back of the helmet) and then he has to be carried off on a stretcher and looks to be in a lot of pain

[procricket]

Bloody hell that is masuri mark 2 the new lid is light years different from that..

[Aussie]

I have seen a few instances of the ball penetrating a Masuri helmet. In fact, I bowled a ball 2 seasons ago that hit a springy spot in an under prepared wicket that cut the batsman's eye brow and he required stiches. Now I'm not anywhere near the pace of some others so for that to happen tells me there's a problem with the space between the grill and peak. Masuri helmets have become more popular here in Australia over the past few years with Albion no longer sponsoring Cricket Australia, so if this has happened in our league, I fathom a guess it'll have happened in others too. especially on synthetic wickets which generally bounce more.
For me, I can understand why Masuri and ECB have decided on this course of action, however I really feel my Albion lid (And all my Albion lids prior) offer me more than adequate protection. In fact, as much as people berate the plastic Albion lids, I think the protection they offer to me personally is brilliant.