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[Number4]

Clearly you do not watch much cricket joeljonno...virtually all the West Indian players are wearing them.

Virtually all the Indian players are wearing them.

Virtually all the Pakistani's are wearing them.

Virtually all the South Africans are wearing them...including Smith, Kallis etc.

How did this happen that ALL the players who were Masuri wearers in the above teams all ditched Masuri en masse overnight to wear this hitherto unknown brand?

Well, I will hazard a guess here...and I have no inside knowledge, so it IS only a guess.

I think that the players from SA, WI, India and Pakistan who normally get their Masuri's sent to them direct from Jalandhar were informed that Masuri was now discontinuing this design. Being loyal to something they trust and are comfortable with, they didn't need any convincing when the SAME FACTORY sent them their new helmets which are identical to their old helmets save for the fact that they now sported a new logo.

Some sponsorship contracts were no doubt signed and PRESTO, Shrey has cornered the market.

I believe that during the SA tour in February, Australian players who wear Masuri will also convert to Shrey. But again, I am only guessing.

English players will be the only ones forced to wear the new Masuri design...and even then, only through force.

So are you saying they are wearing them by default? Not through choice that they are the safest helmets but because that's what they have been sent by the manufacturer?

[skip1973]

Surely retailers will have to sell standards approved helmets, regardless of what being worn by internationals.

[Cricketforlove13]

waooo..... this discussion has brought up the level of search on google for Shrey .

[Aussie]

HAHAHAHA!!

Famous last words eh Aussie?

Chris Rogers was just sconned by a moderate delivery by Broad on his Albion and the guys face is cut and he was shaken up!

Albions are safer??

You evidently forgot about Justin Langer being hit on the side of the helmet first ball of the test by Makhaya Ntini - the ball was no more than 135kmph - and took no further part in the test. Moreover, he then missed the following tour to Bangladesh where Phil Jaques deputized for him. Langer was wearing an Albion. The safest helmet eh?

Please!

You are a fool mate. If you actually read my comment you will realise I was saying that my opinion of my own Albion is high. I never once made any claims to Albion helmets being safer than another. I do however feel it is though as Albions have been used in Australia for years and I've played many grades of cricket and the only instance I ever saw of damage through a helmet was with a Masuri (And at the time, very few of them were being used here In Australia).

An in response to Buck Rogers getting hit. You'll see that the cut was only superficial and very small. No stiches were required and basically a band aid was applied. Tells me that his trusty Albion elite, which I myself rated highly, did it's job perfectly.

[tim2000s]

Vic, whilst you hold strong opinions, there are occasions where your rhetoric oversteps the line. We'd appreciate it if you reel your neck back in on this one and agree to disagree with everyone on this topic who doesn't have the same point of view as you.

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[Vic Nicholas]

Vic, whilst you hold strong opinions, there are occasions where your rhetoric oversteps the line. We'd appreciate it if you reel your neck back in on this one and agree to disagree with everyone on this topic who doesn't have the same point of view as you.

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You will not silence me Tim.

I have not sworn at anyone.

Nor have I called anyone a "fool" etc as has been done to me.

At the end of the day just because I am swimming against the tide of the majority who are displaying selective amnesia, does not mean I am either wrong or should not voice my opinion. Heck, the vast majority of the posters on this site only months ago were MASSIVE Masuri fans and fulsome in their praise in all things Masuri, but now that these helmets can only be sourced by a 100% Indian owned company, they suddenly are no good anymore?

Please!

[Vic Nicholas]

So are you saying they are wearing them by default? Not through choice that they are the safest helmets but because that's what they have been sent by the manufacturer?

Not at all.

Not by default, but by CHOICE.

Masuri is in the process of dying...a once great company that sadly is committing commercial suicide. May their memory be eternal.

Shrey is the "new" kid on the block and the preference of champions as evidence of the massive number of stars already using them.

I say "new" because anybody who knows anything knows that they are not new, but merely the same guys making the same helmets that they have made for years that Masuri claimed were "British" when in fact they were always made in Punjab...like many famous "British" companies.

Players are forced to wear/use all sorts of equipment they don't like by virtue of the sponsorship...but the international players have spoken by jumping en masse onto Shrey.

They have voted with their feet.

I trust them and their opinions, not some internet warriors.

[Vic Nicholas]

You are a fool mate. If you actually read my comment you will realise I was saying that my opinion of my own Albion is high. I never once made any claims to Albion helmets being safer than another. I do however feel it is though as Albions have been used in Australia for years and I've played many grades of cricket and the only instance I ever saw of damage through a helmet was with a Masuri (And at the time, very few of them were being used here In Australia).

An in response to Buck Rogers getting hit. You'll see that the cut was only superficial and very small. No stiches were required and basically a band aid was applied. Tells me that his trusty Albion elite, which I myself rated highly, did it's job perfectly.

I noticed you deliberately side stepped this:

You evidently forgot about Justin Langer being hit on the side of the helmet first ball of the test by Makhaya Ntini - the ball was no more than 135kmph - and took no further part in the test. Moreover, he then missed the following tour to Bangladesh where Phil Jaques deputized for him. Langer was wearing an Albion. The safest helmet eh?

He was out of international cricket for months...from innocuous 135km delivery that hit the side of his Albion.

I actually quite like Albion's...they are nearly as good as Masuri's, but the point is, no matter what helmet you are wearing, mishaps can happen. No matter what abominations they come up with in the future, some injuries will still occur.

I grew up when helmets were just coming in. I remember guys like Rick McCosker, David Hookes, Mohinder Armanath, Majid Khan, Peter Toohey, Graham Yallop, Clive Radley, Mike Gatting, Geoff Lawson etc getting their faces rearranged/jaws broken.

Nowadays, NOBODY gets injured that badly any more. Helmets have prevented serious injury and have done their job.

All we are seeing at the moment is needless meddling.

You are more likely to be killed by being hit over the heart than on the helmet...yet chest protectors will never be forced on players in more evidence of the usual double standards foisted upon us by rapacious officials who work hand in glove with well meaning, but clueless government officials.

[joeljonno]

You are more likely to be killed by being hit over the heart than on the helmet...yet chest protectors will never be forced on players in more evidence of the usual double standards foisted upon us by rapacious officials who work hand in glove with well meaning, but clueless government officials.

Helmets aren't compulsary that I am aware of. It is just sensible.

How many people have died being hit on the heart area of the chest?

[tim2000s]

Helmets aren't compulsary that I am aware of. It is just sensible.

How many people have died being hit on the heart area of the chest?

They are in the uk for u16s. But then I was involved in a game where a fifteen year old got hit on the side of the head by a short ball that shot off the pitch, but not terribly fast. It knocked him out, didn't kill him instantly. He died three weeks later. It makes sense to have youngsters not dying.

The same thing could happen to adults, but you makes your choice and takes your pick. As said here, no-one has to wear a helmet, but I'd rather wear one I perceive will protect me better if I am going to wear one, and the Masuris are too small. The grill used to rest on my chin.


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[Number4]

As I said previously I have played cricket for approx 30 years and I don't wear a helmet, never have and probably never will but if I did have to wear one, sponsor or no sponsor, I would choose an Ayrtek, Aditek or whatever you like to call them these days simply because 1. I like the look of them and 2. I like the thought that has gone into these and the testing and the R&D.

I will be surprised if the younger generation doesn't jump on the Ayrtek bandwagon.

Simply my opinion and nothing to do with being a forum sponsor. I don't know Tom, have never net him and probably never will meet him so there is no reason other than I like his product why I would choose this style of helmet.

[Number4]

They are in the uk for u16s. But then I was involved in a game where a fifteen year old got hit on the side of the head by a short ball that shot off the pitch, but not terribly fast. It knocked him out, didn't kill him instantly. He died three weeks later. It makes sense to have youngsters not dying.

The same thing could happen to adults, but you makes your choice and takes your pick. As said here, no-one has to wear a helmet, but I'd rather wear one I perceive will protect me better if I am going to wear one, and the Masuris are too small. The grill used to rest on my chin.


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I think it is u18s here in Aus not 100% sure but I know it is compulsory for juniors to wear them.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Viv

Your arguments are somewhat one eyed without knowing what evidence was presented by a neutral committee to a panel of brands that actually manufacture the very helmets you question. Its not my place or the right forum to disclose these results as there were done so to the people who are on the panel in a confidential manner.

I think you would be surprised by what the research showed in relation to the ball speeds required that will force its way through the peak/grille area on some models of helmet. There is no way that the video is at 80-90mph as this would destroy the grille entirely as the ball is fired from an air cannon at 60cm away! A 90mph bouncer once it has hit the pitch and reached the batsmen will ravel at around 12-15mph less than when it leaves the hand. The videos we received back after doing our own testing went upto 76mph at which point it was bending a grille back and deforming it severely.

Its easy to create a scenario where a product performs if thats what you are aiming to achieve and the point of impact that ball makes is vital to the test as is shown in the new BSI standard, it doenst just test on a head on angle as no one is likely to just stand and get hit right between the eyes.

There are several instances of injury that show people in certain helmets getting injured so i fail to accept you statement that Nobody gets seriously injured....Pollard, Ferguson, McCullum, Maddy, Anderson, Dilshan, Fulton name a few in regards to the video evidence gathered and shown to us to illustrate the need for improvements to be made.

Either way your views are clearly set in stone and no one has the right to change them except you, its nice to see such emotion over something as simple as a cricket helmet selection!

[Ams4287]

Great piece of feedback Tom, although there's a lot of passion in this thread it's nice to get a balanced response from someone in the industry! whether your a fan or not of any design (I have a Arytek) the research & validation that's gone in is great to read (I'm in the automotive industry so in my daily life am responsibly for product meeting strinous specs).

No matter what brand you choose helmets should always be encouraged & I'm glad that the mandatory rule was brought in for juniors. I remember playing u17s and the lad at the other end top edged one into his nose. Pretty horrific seeing him whisked off in a ambulance - he never played again nor did his younger brother (u15s county player at the time).

[roco]

My lord jeet has returned

Please tell me how we are racist as in earlier posts for agreeing with new safety regs

I for one have never been a masuri fan so am neutral in this but if the helmet is not upto standard which it's obviously not if masuri are re designing it as if it was fine they would not spend the cash on a new design

You have your views fair enough but your so blinkered to anything else it's scary

It's quite funny how you bad mouth a leading figure in helmet safety who the icc have invited to discuss helmet safety

What are your qualifications or experience in cricket helmet safety??