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[Ayrtek Cricket]

That is my whole point Tom.

New regs, old regs, whatever, no one brand can claim to 100% prevent injury, because as you stated, the only way to prevent head injuries all together is to come out to bat in a motor cycle helmet!

Obviously, that is never going to be a practical solution as a cricketing helmet has to be light and have excellent ventilation.

It is my contention that cricket helmets have already succeeded over the last 30 years in preventing the more serious injuries that used to occur before where those players I mentioned all suffered from broken jaws, broken/flattened noses and in old Bert Oldfield's case, I think Larwood gave him a fractured skull from something that would have just bounced off a helmet these days.

In that respect, we already have a wonderful improvement.

I am extremely sceptical that the new regs will make helmets any safer than what they presently without compromising the aspects that we so much cherish about the game.

Cheers mate,
Vic

What the ICC are striving to achieve is to further improve the safety offered by looking at the areas where injuries are occurring and challenging the manufacturers to better the levels of protection currently being offered. As with any product its always going to be looked at and evolved if any designer worth his salt wants to remain in their job.

This is whats being actioned now and we a cricket helmet designers/manufacturers are tasked with that job, we as Ayrtek have gone about it in our method and others will do it in theirs. There is no right or wrong answer to how a helmet should look but they have laid down a set of guidelines as to how it needs to perform in order to optimize safety and hopefully reduce the severity and occurrence of injuries we are seeing with the current helmets being worn on the market.

This is my view (even when not being a director of a cricket helmet company) can only be a good thing to help better protect cricketers when playing the sport we all love.

[tim2000s]

With all due respect, the most serious injuries I have ever seen on a cricket field have been Keegan Meth getting a ball smashed back at 100mph straight into his mouth while he was bowling...will they legislate that bowlers should wear helmets? If they are consistent, they would.

The absolute worst injury I have seen in cricket was Rick Darling of Australia. Rick Darling was struck by a ball by Bob Willis on the heart going for a pull shot. Darling collapsed on the pitch and nearly died but for some quick thinking of John Emburey who realised Darling had swallowed his tongue. Should all players be forced to wear chest protectors?

Cricket head gear should be a choice and it should serve a primary purpose of protecting the player, while also being appealing to wear for adults who are not obligated to wear it.

I am sure common sense will prevail.

I'd say that that incident you quote is certainly one of the worst that I've seen too. The others would include Pollard's eye, Boucher's bail to the eye, Chanderpaul being knocked out, in spite of wearing a helmet, the fifteen year old kid I saw not wearing a helmet, and the guy who's nose I broke who wasn't wearing a helmet, when I was a teenager. I've seen enough ambulances relating to head injuries and cricket and accompanied many people to hospital, and tend to think that helmets are a good idea.

I don't think anyone is mandating that an adult should be made to wear a helmet, or any other protection, although, in certain circumstances, you'd be pretty dumb not to if it was available (would you deliberately walk out without a box? Some do!).

As you say - common sense will prevail.

 

[Alvaro]

Gillespie and Steve Waugh colliding in Sri Lanka wasn't fun.

[tushar sehgal]

Just because something/design is good enough and has been used for years does not disqualify it from being improved/made safer. Unfortunately Masuri from a new design perspective are a complete faliure, safety wise only time will tell.
Problem here isn't the fact that new standards are being introduced but it the fact that companies have done no real work to redesign their products (asthetically), Ayrtek's design works so they didn't have to. I think what was needed was some one sitting down for a couple of weeks and coming up with a new design considering they have had time to do this.

As for shrey, good for them to promote their own brand, chances are they might change their own design a bit if required and end up doing a better job than Masuri. No one is forced to wear a helmet at the levels we play but some do and others don't. Chances are most helmets are safe enough most times and there will never be any helmet that will gurantee you 100% protection everytime.

[Twelfth Man]

Or engage your brain, then decide not to post regardless, cos there's clearly not a huge amount in there.

Though the comment wasn't exactly right, that's a little bit harsh

[jwebber86]

the bit im struggling to understand is why the British/ecb keep getting slagged of when it is the ICC who are passing the new standard for helmet safety.
if they choose to implement it in all ICC sanctioned cricket then players will have to were the suitable helmet. any standard below this in adult cricket is up to the player if they were a helmet. if that choosing to be an older helmet because they prefer the look of it and they feel safe then fare enough. if they want a helmet that passes the recent improved standard for helmet safety then they will were that.

personally i think a lot comes down to the standard you play at and also what helmets are available to buy at the time.

[procricket]

All i know is the entire South Africa team where them including the world number 1 batsman.

Great exposure no matter what and fair play they must be doing something right i have counted over 30 players internationally wearing them i wonder if some of the England players will wear them soon

[Wickets-then-runs]

All i know is the entire South Africa team where them including the world number 1 batsman.

Great exposure no matter what and fair play they must be doing something right i have counted over 30 players internationally wearing them i wonder if some of the England players will wear them soon

Kallis is wearing a Masuri lid in the current match...

[Number4]

Amla is wearing an Albion isn't he? And De Villiers

[procricket]

They have worn Shrey though and have pictures of that great advertisement

In truth once the Masuri stock runs out which in truth is a Shrey anyway i guess it going to be all Shrey lid.

Going to be interesting to see what the England boys do 

[WalkingWicket37]

They have worn Shrey though and have pictures of that great advertisement

In truth once the Masuri stock runs out which in truth is a Shrey anyway i guess it going to be all Shrey lid.

Going to be interesting to see what the England boys do

I think they all had pink Shrey helmets in their breast cancer awareness ODI, that's got to be a decent form of advertising.

[Number4]

They have worn Shrey though and have pictures of that great advertisement

In truth once the Masuri stock runs out which in truth is a Shrey anyway i guess it going to be all Shrey lid.

Going to be interesting to see what the England boys do

Depends if it passes the new regulations though I guess

[Tom]

Does the helmet have to meet the new BSI spec to be used in international cricket? What about those players who want to wear a cap?

There is a current (soon to be old) BSI spec for helmets, but there is no mention of this in the ICC Equipment regulations or in the MCC laws. I'm aware trading standards can ban helmets from sale if they don't meet the safety spec, but not sure how this is enforcable on the professional circuit - unless there are changes made to the ICC regs.

May be wrong but new standard for UK should come into play in the next few days: http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030259240

[Number4]

If the helmets don't meet the new standards are manufacturers allowed to sell them and if they do and if a player is seriously injured while wearing said helmet where do they stand in regard to insurance and being sued? Especially if they make them ISO standards.

[smilley792]

To be fair, I don't care about a lot of what is going on this thread.

But.




I do find it interesting that not one of the "new" masuri lids has yet to be seen in any form of cricket yet upon a masuri sponsored players head?

Are they really that bad?
Is the visibility that poor?

As if your being paid to wear it, you'd expect someone to take the cash over style, and you'd expect masuri to want to get them on people's heads to promote them.