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[Vic Nicholas]

Why when all other helmet manufacturers are trying to improve safety, would Shrey sit there and (appear to) refuse to do so. In my experience companies who rest on their laurels tend to be left behind. As they say in formula one, if you're not moving forwards, you're moving backwards.

I hate to break it to you, but just this last week Shrey executives personally flew to England to submit a number of their helmets to rigorous testing (something Forma have never done, but they don give a f__ about your BS UK laws anyway). All I will say at this stage is that you will be seeing MORE of the Shrey at international level, not less.

If Mr James Mark wasn't banned from this forum, he would be able to give you a run down on the hoax that is being dumped on you, the UK consumer, by the nanny state and show you documentation of the collusion and deception.

But you guys could never handle the truth, so you would have simply poo pooed him as you always did in the past.

[Vic Nicholas]

There is no need for you to deject Ayrtek. Their gear is quality along with their service however if you are so keen on shrey, I suggest you invest.

In my experience, ayrteks have been far better than other helmets, perhaps you should try one before you knock them, Vic 

I am not slagging Ayrtek's at all.

They may be the best helmet ever invented since the Lord's creation (I doubt it personally), but it cannot be ignored that NOT ONE international player persists in wearing one any longer than they are contractually obligated to do so.

Yet players like Michael Clarke (Masuri) and Cheteshwar Pujara (Shrey) continue to wear this helmet with the logo removed or texta'ed over (Pujara) in order to keep wearing their most preferred helmet even though they are not being paid anything to do so.

It is called "voting with one's feet".

[cricketbadger]

Where can I get one?

[lewis_faulds]

Tbh, many are often put off by the look of Ayrteks - but their protection rivals "bigger" brands.
Players often use helmets they are suited to - Carberry still uses his aYrtek?

[Vic Nicholas]

Where can I get one?

You can contact them via Facebook and they will put you in touch with the UK distributor.

[Vic Nicholas]

Carberry still uses his aYrtek?

I rest my case.

[lewis_faulds]

I rest my case.

What case?

[cricketbadger]

Is there a UK distributor, and how do the prices compare to Masuri?

I cant see the big issue with all this

[lewis_faulds]

Is there a UK distributor, and how do the prices compare to Masuri?

I cant see the big issue with all this

What I was about to ask!

[Vic Nicholas]

Is there a UK distributor, and how do the prices compare to Masuri?

I cant see the big issue with all this

Shrey will be about 15% cheaper than Masuri as I understand. (But don't quote me on it, as I am not 100% sure)

[tim2000s]

Vic, let's get you off your high horse and come back to the point that it was not the "British Nanny state" that you love so much but the ICC medical panel that raised issues with helmet designs and the British Standards Institute developed a new standard for protection off the back of this, that the ISO will implement. As much as you dislike to face the reality of the situation, there are plenty of injuries caused through helmets that met previous design standards. And a fair number have been mentioned, to international players, on here.

While we get that you don't like Ayrteks and love the shrey helmets, please get your facts straight before spouting nonsense about the British government forcing things on the public and go take a look at the ICC, of which CA, I believe, are a major part.....

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[Vic Nicholas]

Hey Tim,

Would you care to enlighten me on the FACT that the new machine at Loughborough that will determine the safety capacity of all helmets will not be ready until February to conduct it's first tests. So by virtue of that fact, NO helmet (Ayrtek included) can honestly claim to meet the "new" safety standards?

You are very much learned on the topic, so please enlighten me on this anomaly that certain posters with vested interests on this forum have remained conspicuously silent about.

Kindest Regards,
You Mate

[FvanN]

I have extensive experience in conducting teating on a very wide variety of products to a very large list of specs and have found that In my experience quite a few (not all) of the clients I work with conduct in house testing of their own so that when they turn up for certified testing they kind of know what to expect from their kit.
So Vic I would expect that all leading lid manufacturers would conduct some level of testing during the development of their lids as it would be alot more cost effective to set up a basic test setup that can give you some confidence in your product before you turn up for certification testing to find your product is rubbish and you have to start again. 

So in a nutshell I would hazard a guess that all the helmet manufactures have conducted their own testing so that they can say with at least 85% certainty that their lids will pass the new specs.

[Buzz]

hi Vic, ask mentioned elsewhere, you should expect the standard to be adopted into the MCC laws of cricket, so will apply in Aus (that nanny state that makes everyone where a bicycle helmet, not something compulsory over here - but eminently sensible)
it is only a matter of time.

if/when shrey fail the tests, then they won't be able to sell their products in the uk as the liability risk will be too high and they won't be insured.

forma make the lids for GN. who will have to do the testing on their lids. again they won't be sold if they aren't up to the standard.

please think more about what you are saying.

Albion will be the big winners as everyone buys their plastic club mark style lids.

[tim2000s]

Given that the standards were only recently published, I don't doubt that a certification rig is not yet available. That's pretty standard practice. The Standard will define what the tests required to be passed are, and it will be possible to undertake these tests independently, as FvanN says, to provide a very high level of confidence that your products meet requirements.

As an aside, according to the BSi, Cricket Helmets are tested at a lab in Hemel Hempstead, so I'm not entirely sure why a testing machine in Loughborough being ready would have any impact on the ability to undertake a BSi Certification.

Having said that, looking through the literature and commentary, I also don't see anyone from the manufacturers explicitly stating that their products meet the new standard. What I do see is evidence of people talking about safer products and being tested in certain ways, and using terms like "helmets excel under both of these test conditions" and "we would only sell products that comply with the latest standards to meet insurance requirements" allowing kit nerds like us to draw our own conclusions. I'm sure no manufacturer will make statements about being certified until they truly are.