Print

[awp]

England are poor, and the ashes are gone. Will we try something new and different in the next test? I hope so. But some how doubt it.

Root
Carberry
Bell
Pietersen
Cook
Ballance
Bairstow
Stokes
Bresnan
Mills
Panesar

I know people will say"why drop cook down" but I think a left/right opening combo will add something different.
Broads injured, so mills can be called up.
Bowlings probably light, but it's a decent top 9!

If they get hammered,then they'd have done just as well as the current lot!

But cook/carbery are the top 2 run scorers for england and have done ok on occassions.  In fact, carberry has been pretty damn good, looks the part - hasnt had much luck either

[Number 11]

Looks like we've written off this series then 
Just watching the highlights last night and thought "has there been an earthquake?" the size of the cracks in that pitch are nearly the worst I've ever seen 

[mo_town]

All this talk abt home conditions advantage for Australia... Sounds like loser's excuses to me...how different are conditions?? Isnt England supposed to have a world class attack too? Are the conditions in Aus so alien to the English batsmen??
Just accept it, this Aus team has shown the hunger to win and are coming hard to England..the Aus team was pretty good in Eng too...imo, the results were misleading..that series was a lot closer than the end result suggests..Aus had England on the mat a few times but Eng bounced back thanks to brilliant individual performances..this time around its a total annihilation!!

[smilley792]

But cook/carbery are the top 2 run scorers for england and have done ok on occassions.  In fact, carberry has been pretty damn good, looks the part - hasnt had much luck either

I know, I'm just bored off seeing us get run through every night. Lol

[ProCricketer1982]

England are poor, and the ashes are gone. Will we try something new and different in the next test? I hope so. But some how doubt it.

Root
Carberry
Bell
Pietersen
Cook
Ballance
Bairstow
Stokes
Bresnan
Mills
Panesar

I know people will say"why drop cook down" but I think a left/right opening combo will add something different.
Broads injured, so mills can be called up.
Bowlings probably light, but it's a decent top 9!

If they get hammered,then they'd have done just as well as the current lot!

Cook, Carberry (cooks the skipper and carbs has done ok (ish))

Root at three
Bell at 4 - he's now our star player and the only man in some form really
Robson 5 - I'm eying him up as the future 1/2/3 so let's get him in and learning
Balance 6 - probably our future.. Get him in
Stokes - I think he's shown enough as all rounder to get some more game time

After that, I don't really have the bowling knowledge to know who is about but 3 more bowlers please (one spinner)

Home conditions is something I don't buy into and sounds like excuses to me. In England England got lucky, now aus have confidence and are playing well and England are still the same (if not worse) and have been thumped. Aus aren't a very good side, Johnson is still hit and miss, Harris is knackered and his knee is (No Swearing Please), sidle is a quality work horse bit England's batsmen have gifted him wickets (cough KP/Prior).

I can't blame Aussies for lauding it over England as they've lost recently but I don't think their team is that good.

[FvanN]

Johnson's toe buster to Broad was epic  has to be my favourite way to get a batsman out.

[awp]

Looks like we've written off this series then 
Just watching the highlights last night and thought "has there been an earthquake?" the size of the cracks in that pitch are nearly the worst I've ever seen 

Not much the curator can do when we have a heat wave.  Perth has those once each december usually.  It will be 40 for 3-5 days.  If its any consolation, its will be significantly cooler after the test finishes........ when it is hot, the pitch cracks.  There was a time when they left the grass on to  counteract cracking, ball went sideways and test was over in 3 days...... the cracks dont seem to be in play yet in any case.  As far as comfort is concerned, its obviously unpleasant, but perth is dry and 40 here isnt as bad as say 33 on the east coast.

[awp]

I can't blame Aussies for lauding it over England as they've lost recently but I don't think their team is that good.

I still think youre grossly underestimating this side. 
Johnson has more wickets, at a better average than broad.  Harris knee isnt stopping him from bowling.  Siddle is a workhorse that appears to be gifted wickets, because batters havent scored for 4 overs then try to force the pace. 

[ProCricketer1982]

I still think youre grossly underestimating this side. 
Johnson has more wickets, at a better average than broad.  Harris knee isnt stopping him from bowling.  Siddle is a workhorse that appears to be gifted wickets, because batters havent scored for 4 overs then try to force the pace.

Johnson's avg against the top 6 is 65+ I think.. He's just being played terribly by the English tail. He's looked like old Mitch this game. You won't get me with broad jibes, I dislike the guy as when he bowls that length he's great but it's far to rare and he messes about being the 'enforcer' or throwing his teddies out the pram.

Harris is struggling, limping in the field. He'll not be around much longer. 12-18 months max. He's your best bowler by a mile, he's quality and fitness allowin would I reckon have been up there with the best.

Sidle is a top draw workhorse. You are right that he bored the batsmen into playing silly shots in the 4 an over chase as you say.

Aus bowling attack is good, no doubt about it.. It's just not as good as England are making it look!

[lazza32]

Johnson's avg against the top 6 is 65+ I think.. He's just being played terribly by the English tail. He's looked like old Mitch this game. You won't get me with broad jibes, I dislike the guy as when he bowls that length he's great but it's far to rare and he messes about being the 'enforcer' or throwing his teddies out the pram.

Harris is struggling, limping in the field. He'll not be around much longer. 12-18 months max. He's your best bowler by a mile, he's quality and fitness allowin would I reckon have been up there with the best.

Sidle is a top draw workhorse. You are right that he bored the batsmen into playing silly shots in the 4 an over chase as you say.

Aus bowling attack is good, no doubt about it.. It's just not as good as England are making it look!

Rather see an average team win then a good team lose.

[awp]

Johnson's avg against the top 6 is 65+ I think.. He's just being played terribly by the English tail. He's looked like old Mitch this game. You won't get me with broad jibes, I dislike the guy as when he bowls that length he's great but it's far to rare and he messes about being the 'enforcer' or throwing his teddies out the pram.

Harris is struggling, limping in the field. He'll not be around much longer. 12-18 months max. He's your best bowler by a mile, he's quality and fitness allowin would I reckon have been up there with the best.

Sidle is a top draw workhorse. You are right that he bored the batsmen into playing silly shots in the 4 an over chase as you say.

Aus bowling attack is good, no doubt about it.. It's just not as good as England are making it look!

No broad jibe at all, I recon he's a cracker, I dont get all the agro in his direction....because he didnt walk? Why the F should/would he?  I like him as a cricketer, although obvious displays of dissatisfaction with your team mates arent to be encouraged.  MJ has bowled very well in this match?

[ProCricketer1982]

No broad jibe at all, I recon he's a cracker, I dont get all the agro in his direction....because he didnt walk? Why the F should/would he?

  I like him as a cricketer, although obvious displays of dissatisfaction with your team mates arent to be encouraged.  MJ has bowled very well in this match?

Johnson hasn't bowled that well. He's no Mitch of old like but he's not bowled that well either. Harris has been the one really, along with sidle/Watto and Lyon as they've dryers up the runs and created,the pressure that's brought them wickets. It sounds like your spoiling for a aus vs eng disagreement but there isn't one. The team playing the better cricket is winning! And winning easily.

On a side note, it would be nice to be able to listen to stump mic all game rather than the commentators. Would be interesting to hear who 'sledges' and then can't take it back. If you sledge then you can't moan when you get it back, if you don't say anything then you shouldn't get any in return.

[mo_town]

Johnson may not be getting top order wickets but none have looked comfortable against him and he has effectively softened them up.. The Aus bowling has worked well as a unit...

The broad dismissal and the Warner celebration were the moments of the day for me!!! Epic!! gotta love Warner's fighting spirit after all he has had to go thru in Eng..

[procricket]

All i know is i would rather be 2 up with a possibility of 3 nil than where we are.

Australia are simply playing better cricket

[lazza32]

No broad jibe at all, I recon he's a cracker, I dont get all the agro in his direction....because he didnt walk? Why the F should/would he?  I like him as a cricketer, although obvious displays of dissatisfaction with your team mates arent to be encouraged.  MJ has bowled very well in this match?

No AWP, according to a few on this forum MJ isn't bowling good the batsmen are playing bad. His line and length are just lucky, his aggression is just an aberration. The Australian fielding is a once off (for 3 tests) and the thug warner isn't a good batsmen he is ALLOWED to play that way by England. You see England have ALLOWED Australia to beat the crap out of them because Australia haven't improved since the last ashes, England have got worse.