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[ProCricketer1982]

So, we are talking about normal level cricket (so three leagues below the WEPL prem), what is everyone's thoughts on the average runs for the first wicket?? What's good? What's bad and what's just average??

So the opening avg for me and my partners this season (sat league only) was 37.83 which for my first season isn't bad but I'd like to see what everyone thinks should be the target

[GarrettJ]

What was the average length of the stand??

I open and I like to be on at least 40/50 at a minimum (from 60 balls) by 20 overs and the team around 90/100 for 0.

That's our aim ..... We rarely do it as my partner is usually out by 10 overs as they lose discipline and start slogging

I'd say 50 is a good average

[ProCricketer1982]

What was the average length of the stand??

I open and I like to be on at least 40/50 at a minimum (from 60 balls) by 20 overs and the team around 90/100 for 0.

That's our aim

Not worked it out time wise. It was rare for us as a team not to score 230+ though and quite often were 270 ish. It was rare we weren't on 80 after 20 overs. I have no idea though tbh.

50 avg.. Some work to do to get to that

[GarrettJ]

if your average is 36 and the average length is 10 overs then is it great? Some would say its a good start, some would say its slow, some would say that its losing a wicket to early.

you can compare yourself to the greatest opening partnerships ever, my old batting coach is number 1

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283663.html

Highest opening partnership runs in a career Partners    Span    Inns    NO    Runs    High    Ave    100    50
CG Greenidge, DL Haynes (WI)    1978-1991    148    11    6482    298    47.31    16    26
ML Hayden, JL Langer (Aus)    2001-2007    113    4    5655    255    51.88    14    24
AN Cook, AJ Strauss (Eng)    2006-2012    117    2    4711    229    40.96    12    18
MS Atapattu, ST Jayasuriya (SL)    1997-2007    118    7    4469    335    40.26    9    24
G Gambhir, V Sehwag (India)    2004-2012    87    3    4412    233    52.52    11    25
MJ Slater, MA Taylor (Aus)    1993-1999    78    2    3887    260    51.14    10    16
WM Lawry, RB Simpson (Aus)    1961-1968    62    3    3596    382    60.94    9    18
JB Hobbs, H Sutcliffe (Eng)    1924-1930    38    1    3249    283    87.81    15    10
CPS Chauhan, SM Gavaskar (India)    1973-1981    59    3    3010    213    53.75    10    10
HH Gibbs, GC Smith (SA)    2002-2008    56    3    2983    368    56.28    7    10
L Hutton, C Washbrook (Eng)    1946-1951    51    3    2880    359    60.00    8    13
AJ Strauss, ME Trescothick (Eng)    2004-2006    52    1    2670    273    52.35    8    12
MA Atherton, GA Gooch (Eng)    1990-1995    44    0    2501    225    56.84    7    12
ME Trescothick, MP Vaughan (Eng)    2002-2005    54    3    2487    182    48.76    6    15
HH Gibbs, G Kirsten (SA)    1998-2002    51    0    2283    256    44.76    5    11
JB Hobbs, W Rhodes (Eng)    1910-1921    36    1    2146    323    61.31    8    5
Mohsin Khan, Mudassar Nazar (Pak)    1981-1986    54    2    2057    157    39.55    3    16
GR Marsh, MA Taylor (Aus)    1989-1992    47    3    1980    329    45.00    4    9
D Ganga, CH Gayle (WI)    2001-2008    49    2    1954    214    41.57    5    7
MA Atherton, AJ Stewart (Eng)    1994-1998    50    1    1930    171    39.38    6    8
DC Boon, GR Marsh (Aus)    1985-1988    41    1    1871    217    46.77    5    8
EJ Barlow, TL Goddard (SA)    1963-1967    34    2    1806    134    56.43    6    11
AN Petersen, GC Smith (SA)    2010-2013    44    1    1770    153    41.16    4    8
G Boycott, GA Gooch (Eng)    1978-1982    49    3    1754    144    38.13    4    10
AD Gaekwad, SM Gavaskar (India)    1976-1985    49    1    1722    176*    35.87    4    9
G Boycott, JH Edrich (Eng)    1964-1972    35    3    1672    172    52.25    6    8
ND McKenzie, GC Smith (SA)    2008-2009    27    2    1664    415    66.56    5    8
BA Edgar, JG Wright (NZ)    1978-1986    56    4    1655    100    31.82    1    12
AB de Villiers, GC Smith (SA)    2004-2008    30    0    1646    245    54.86    4    6
RC Fredericks, CG Greenidge (WI)    1974-1977    31    2    1593    192    54.93    5    5
Aamer Sohail, Saeed Anwar (Pak)    1994-2000    37    2    1563    128    44.65    4    8
TJ Franklin, JG Wright (NZ)    1988-1991    28    0    1543    185    55.10    5    5
SM Katich, SR Watson (Aus)    2009-2010    28    0    1523    182    54.39    3    10
TM Dilshan, NT Paranavitana (SL)    2009-2012    38    1    1506    207    40.70    2    12
SM Gavaskar, K Srikkanth (India)    1981-1987    34    0    1469    200    43.20    3    9
Mohammad Hafeez, Taufeeq Umar (Pak)    2003-2012    39    2    1438    164    38.86    5    7
Majid Khan, Sadiq Mohammad (Pak)    1974-1978    26    3    1391    147    60.47    4    9
AF Rae, JB Stollmeyer (WI)    1948-1953    21    2    1349    239    71.00    5    3
WM Lawry, KR Stackpole (Aus)    1969-1971    31    2    1302    95*    44.89    0    13
CH Gayle, WW Hinds (WI)    2001-2005    33    0    1300    172    39.39    3    8
MA Atherton, ME Trescothick (Eng)    2000-2001    30    0    1297    159    43.23    4    6
AC Hudson, G Kirsten (SA)    1993-1997    41    2    1289    236    33.05    3    5
EJM Cowan, DA Warner (Aus)    2011-2013    28    0    1256    214    44.85    3    6
CH Gayle, DS Smith (WI)    2003-2010    35    1    1233    139    36.26    4    4
Imrul Kayes, Tamim Iqbal (Ban)    2008-2011    32    0    1229    185    38.40    2    6
RW Barber, G Boycott (Eng)    1964-1966    26    1    1171    234    46.84    2    7
JW Burke, CC McDonald (Aus)    1956-1959    32    3    1151    190    39.68    3    3
DL Haynes, PV Simmons (WI)    1988-1994    33    2    1147    122    37.00    1    8
MA Atherton, MA Butcher (Eng)    1997-2000    32    0    1107    179    34.59    4    0
UC Hathurusingha, RS Mahanama (SL)    1992-1995    32    0    1054    110    32.93    2    4
ML Hayden, MJ Slater (Aus)    1994-2001    25    1    1045    156    43.54    3    4
TL Goddard, DJ McGlew (SA)    1955-1960    27    1    1038    176    39.92    3    2
W Jaffer, V Sehwag (India)    2002-2008    28    0    1031    213    36.82    3    4
WA Brown, JHW Fingleton (Aus)    1935-1938    16    0    1020    233    63.75    3    4

[GarrettJ]

happy with my estimate of 50 being good!! Seems like you arent far behind atherton and stewart

[Blazer]

Irrespective of standard, 110- 125  in 25 overs is achievable. 70-80 average for first wicket partnership would be ideal. I would consider averaging 45 plus as having a good season.

[GarrettJ]

70-80 is a bit rough .... only hobbs and sutcliffe are better on that list!

[Blazer]

The reason for 70-80 is that a few wides, byes and nicks past the slip can get you to a 50 partnership, but closer to the 80 mark the opposition starts to lose focus.

[GarrettJ]

80 would be great but as an average i think its probably asking a little too much.

[ProCricketer1982]

70-80!!! Not a chance any normal opening bats at the amateur level avg that.. Not unless they are playing below their level.

[joeljonno]

We play 40-50 overs, depending on the team.

I'd say a average stand would be 40-60, a good stand would be 60-90 and 90+ very good.

I normally look at 30 after 10 and 70 after 20 to get 200 (max batting points).

[joeylough]

Coming in a 3 a few times this year, I found that coming in with the score being between 70-90 I played better cricket, coming in from 0-50 then I struggled.

Personally I would like to see the opening pair hitting runs and including the byes, wides etc 70-90 would be a good start, within around 15-20 overs.

[ProCricketer1982]

We play 40-50 overs, depending on the team.

I'd say a average stand would be 40-60, a good stand would be 60-90 and 90+ very good.

I normally look at 30 after 10 and 70 after 20 to get 200 (max batting points).

We had various opening stands from 6 to 215 so the full range. Obviously the aim is 80 ish from 20, 120 off 25 and then 150 by 30-33 overs etc

Just asking you guys what you think for mere mortals is a excellent, good, avg, poor, really bad opening stand avg. think about your own sides avg if it helps

[joeljonno]

Coming in a 3 a few times this year, I found that coming in with the score being between 70-90 I played better cricket, coming in from 0-50 then I struggled.

Personally I would like to see the opening pair hitting runs and including the byes, wides etc 70-90 would be a good start, within around 15-20 overs.

I'm the other way round when I bat 3. If we're doing well, I usually fail.

[ProCricketer1982]

We play 40-50 overs, depending on the team.

I'd say a average stand would be 40-60, a good stand would be 60-90 and 90+ very good.

I normally look at 30 after 10 and 70 after 20 to get 200 (max batting points).

This is more what I had in my head but it seems other teams have higher standards.  I always think teams should target 250+ rather than 200 though, just to put the oppos under pressure from the off.