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[Blank Bats]

To me Stokes has shown that it's not impossible to score runs against that Aussie attack. simple as that

[joeljonno]

Are you sure?! 
Cook is one of the most negative captains on the international circuit.
It has worked in the past but only works if your batsman are scoring big runs, which for the last two ashes series they haven't done consistently enough.

I may have been playing on the previous comment about the fact it was the Aussies bowling, and not Stokes himself, that got the hundred.  I just turned their comment around about every Australian ton scorer in the series.

I may have been slightly tongue in cheek with the comment itself.

[Manormanic]

For what it's worth, Borthwick making runs at Chester le Street bodes well. He can play. Five or six overs when the ball's old could be a decent bonus. English captains can't skipper legspin though... 

Lets be clear, Borthwick will never play as a Steve Smith/Bear White type character, a batsman who bowls a few filthies; if he is to go to play for England his bowling has to be worthy of one of five places, because there are loads of better pure batsmen.  The same applies to Adil Rashid, who is a better bat than Borthwick in any event - he's not Test class with the willow, but might be a useful fifth bowler and seven bat.

[procricket]

Lets be totally honest here where talking who is better than who but in truth none of us watch or i doubt have watched enough 4 day cricket to seriously rate one against the other.

Stats based thoughs and theories we don't have the inside track i think Tai has it right.

Get a chance take it simple as that

In my eyes Stokes is a better version of Bresnan.

[Manormanic]

In my eyes Stokes is a better version of Bresnan.

I think that is a bit harsh on both - Stokes will not be the man to bowl the hard overs the way that Bresnan has been, and Bresnan was never more than a good number eight where as Stokes has the potential to be an extremely destructive number six - one of them is the kind of yeoman all good sides desperately need (even the great Australian sides played the likes of Andy Bichel and Mike Kasprowicz, the West Indies needed Gus Logie), the other a really explosive big match player.

[procricket]

I disagree i think Stokes will develop into the 4th seamer as Bresnan has become and Stokes is a genuine Batsman and a genuine all rounder which our country has not seen too often.

I see similarities with another all rounder of the past but i think Stokes is capable of more he has the world at his feet if he wants it.

Time to bring in Overton over the summer and a few others of a younger ilk i think.

Agree we need a workhorse but i think we need one better than we currently have Australia have Siddall.

Whoever gets in it could be interesting although i do not throw away the old guard just yet there still some mileage in them all.

[Ryan]

I don't think we can really comment until he's had a few tests under his belt. Same with carbs. He's done really well but hasn't made any big scores...yet.

[procricket]

Carbs is ok nothing more i think he might fade but he has done ok agree but i think Stokes is a class act he has the feeling of matchwinner about him or box office..

Not sure if it in a drunken canoe or on the field though

[Mtown Don]

I don't think we can really comment until he's had a few tests under his belt. Same with carbs. He's done really well but hasn't made any big scores...yet.

I like Carberry and think he has done OK but surely at his age he was brought in as a short term solution. That has failed and he hasn't nailed down a spot (I know his opportunities have been limited) so surely time to move on?


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[awp]

Carbs is ok nothing more i think he might fade but he has done ok agree but i think Stokes is a class act he has the feeling of matchwinner about him or box office..

Not sure if it in a drunken canoe or on the field though

I dont think Carberry will fade.......

[procricket]

I think he has 2 tests to cement a place i hope he does a honest good cricketer

[Sam]

I like Carberry and think he has done OK but surely at his age.....so surely time to move on?

I think they (Hampshire) will generally line up as:

Carberry (when available)
Adams *
etc....

~ Hampshire Thread

Keep up the effort mate .

[Mtown Don]

~ Hampshire Thread

Keep up the effort mate .

Was thinking more of his ODI commitments which I think should continue


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[Sam]

Was thinking more of his ODI commitments which I think should continue


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Oh, that kinda failed on my part when I've gotta explain what I meant doesn't it .

I meant as in you want Carberry to be available more so are saying he shouldn't be in the team...  Maybe I should leave now  .

[Mtown Don]

Oh, that kinda failed on my part when I've gotta explain what I meant doesn't it .

I meant as in you want Carberry to be available more so are saying he shouldn't be in the team...  Maybe I should leave now  .

No worries, thought that might be what you were getting at.

I have a lot of time for Carbs and want him to have a good international career as I think his work ethic deserves it but would rather watch him enjoying his cricket at the Ageas than struggling under the pressure of opening for the test side when I don't think he's quite good enough. A nearly full season for Hants with the odd ODI appearance is the best of both worlds!


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