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mk_chappo

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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2013, 09:11:36 AM »

Another miserable ashes morning. Good to see KP still hanging in there.
Now they've dropped Prior - can anyone see a way back into international cricket for him?
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2013, 10:00:29 AM »

Another miserable ashes morning. Good to see KP still hanging in there.
Now they've dropped Prior - can anyone see a way back into international cricket for him?

The way Bairstow is batting at this level, I would say that there is every chance that Prior could get back in!
I still think that Buttler could eventually take the gloves, although he is not ready for international test level yet!
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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2013, 10:14:43 AM »

I really don't think Buttler is even close - lets face it, he has limited first class experience and a less than stellar record at that form of the game.  I suspect Prior will come back for the English Summer, but that Bairstow will be his long term successor (if Foakes is not performing brilliantly in the First Class game by that time)
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2013, 10:32:46 AM »

Kieswetter is ahead of Buttler for the test side I think, he has a far more accomplished record at FC and that says it all. Foakes is definitely being groomed for the test slot. Hopefully England get someone in with a view to the future, give him a good run and judge him them. Bairstow's frailties with the bat are upsetting the plan a bit.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2013, 10:56:40 AM »

Only just watching it all off record so just seen Cook out. FFS Cook stop playing at balls out there!!! 100% got yourself out again.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2013, 06:41:25 PM »

We looked very timid, very hesitant and still can't deal with MJ. Unless KP can perform a miracle tomorrow, I can't see us getting 300. We need to bowl really well here - although I do fancy Monty to do well.

Very, very frustrating to watch how we have lost so much confidence and ability (although fair play to the Aussie bowlers).
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2013, 07:26:58 PM »

Hopefully KP can get a big ton and the tail can bat around him. Didn't see the Stokes dismissal but watched Bairstow batting and he certainly didn't look comfortable at all. Is it just me but I seem to have developed an intense dislike of Warner?
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« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2013, 08:54:02 PM »

Hopefully KP can get a big ton and the tail can bat around him. Didn't see the Stokes dismissal but watched Bairstow batting and he certainly didn't look comfortable at all. Is it just me but I seem to have developed an intense dislike of Warner?

Stokes was a ball he probably didn't need to play at but his no were near as guilty as cook at playing at balls he doesn't need to play at. I remember cook having the temperament to bat for days and leave the ball so well but he seems to be consistently playing at balls he has no need to. The slow scoring rate wouldn't be an issue if we had only lost 3-4 wickets but 220 in 90 overs for the loss of 6 is poor batting with a very poor mindset in my opinion.

The ball that got JB was a good nut but massive gap between bat & pad but good bowling by MJ forced him back which he didn't look comfortable against them hit top of off peg.

Agree Warner I think is the main person Swann was on about when he says up there own (No Swearing Please) whilst on a high. Wasn't so cocky when he was acting the village idiot and not being selected. Great player but not a great cricketer.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2013, 09:04:57 PM »

What does everyone think the best possible outcome can be for England from 226-6? I just want us to at least make a fight of it with the Aussies. Mind I am taking nothing away from what their guys have achieved, but our much lauded batting line up haven't helped in the situation. Our only ton to date scored by a 22 year old playing in his 2nd Test, what on earth have our batting coaches been doing while they have been out there looks to me as if all they have been doing is collecting there pay checks.
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« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2013, 09:20:55 PM »

KP has one of his days and Bresnan really dogs it out with him. They put on 60 together.

KP then puts on another 30 with the rest of the tail, plus a few extras, and we end up at 320.

Then Broad and Anderson really put in a shift and knock over the first 4 or 5. Then surprise of surprises, Monty comes on and cleans up and we end up with an 80 run lead.

It's cheap Lage and too much sugar this time.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2013, 09:27:40 PM »

How can England justify Jonny Bairstow being in the side?

He showed no guts or fight whatsoever.

Backing away at Test level, when he's basically a pure batsman. Johnson's hardly breaking bones...

Very weak.   
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2013, 09:30:43 PM »

Quite right - we've seen enough.

I wouldn't let him bat in the second innings.
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2013, 09:34:02 PM »

Quite right - we've seen enough.

I wouldn't let him bat in the second innings.
Pick Davies instead!
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2013, 09:51:10 PM »

Stokes was a ball he probably didn't need to play at but his no were near as guilty as cook at playing at balls he doesn't need to play at. I remember cook having the temperament to bat for days and leave the ball so well but he seems to be consistently playing at balls he has no need to. The slow scoring rate wouldn't be an issue if we had only lost 3-4 wickets but 220 in 90 overs for the loss of 6 is poor batting with a very poor mindset in my opinion.

The ball that got JB was a good nut but massive gap between bat & pad but good bowling by MJ forced him back which he didn't look comfortable against them hit top of off peg.

Agree Warner I think is the main person Swann was on about when he says up there own (No Swearing Please) whilst on a high. Wasn't so cocky when he was acting the village idiot and not being selected. Great player but not a great cricketer.

Swann: "Some people playing the game at the minute have no idea how far up their own backsides they are and it will bite them on the a*** one day," Swann told The Sun.

"And when it does, I hope they look back and are embarrassed about how they carry on. No names.

"It really annoys me when people take playing for England for granted and get above their station. It’s the most privileged thing they can do."

You seriously believe Swann wasn't talking about his own team? Really?
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Re: The Boxing Day test
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2013, 09:54:18 PM »

Think he was talking about Nathan Lyons
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