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[Vic Nicholas]

I was talking about batting ability, if you read my whole post correctly.

Even then...

Johnson has an unbeaten 120 odd versus SA
An unbeaten 90 odd versus SA
At least one other score over 90
Plus 70's and 60's.

Not the biggest dud with a bat in his hands.

Harris before his transformation into an express pace bowler at the age of 30 was for years in his previous guise an all-rounder...similar to Bresnan, but not quite as good.

[Johnny]

And YOU would be wrong Vic

As of now Broad & Bres combined batting average is 52

Johnson & Harris is 43

[Gerry SA]

Broad and Bresnan are vastly overrated with the bat.

Broad averages 23.63
Bresnan averages 26.13

But if you look closer at their stats you'll see Broad's a home town bully.

Broad averages 32 at home. With 1 x hundred and 9 x fifty.
Outside England Broad averages 14. With 1 x fifty.

Bresnan is pretty ordinary with the bat.
He's got 3 Test fifties. One against Bangladesh and two against a pathetic Indian attack in 2010.

Bresnan averages 33 at home, with 2 x fifty. Boosted by 4 not outs.
Outside England, he averages 18.90(boosted by the 91 he flogged against Bangladesh). It's also his only fifty plus score outside England.

Johnson averages 25.90 in Australia with 6 x fifty.
Outside Australia he averages 20, with 1 x hundred and 2 x fifty.

So Johnson is more adaptable with the bat.

[joeljonno]

Broad and Bresnan are vastly overrated with the bat.

Broad averages 23.63
Bresnan averages 26.13

But if you look closer at their stats you'll see Broad's a home town bully.

Broad averages 32 at home. With 1 x hundred and 9 x fifty.
Outside England Broad averages 14. With 1 x fifty.

Bresnan is pretty ordinary with the bat.
He's got 3 Test fifties. One against Bangladesh and two against a pathetic Indian attack in 2010.

Bresnan averages 33 at home, with 2 x fifty. Boosted by 4 not outs.
Outside England, he averages 18.90(boosted by the 91 he flogged against Bangladesh). It's also his only fifty plus score outside England.

Johnson averages 25.90 in Australia with 6 x fifty.
Outside Australia he averages 20, with 1 x hundred and 2 x fifty.

So Johnson is more adaptable with the bat.

So under that same reasoning, you rate Anderson, Broad and Bresnan as better bowlers that Mitchell Johnson.

Interesting...

All have a worse average, yet all are "more adaptable".

Obviously Johnson is "vastly overrated" with the ball....

 

[Gerry SA]

So under that same reasoning, you rate Anderson, Broad and Bresnan as better bowlers that Mitchell Johnson.

Interesting...

All have a worse average, yet all are "more adaptable".

Obviously Johnson is "vastly overrated" with the ball....

 

Overrated Anderson has 127 wicket @ 35.93 outside England.

Johnson has 88 wickets @ 35.05 outside Australia.

So Mitch is still better than Anderson...

[joeljonno]

Overrated Anderson has 127 wicket @ 35.93 outside England.

Johnson has 88 wickets @ 35.05 outside Australia.

So Mitch is still better than Anderson...

According to Howstat..

Johnson has 91 @ 36.29
Anderson has 131 @ 36.02

Your reasoning still puts Anderson ahead.

Shame that.

[FattusCattus]

Is this called a 'stat-off'?

[Over Gully]

Johnson has a better average, strike rate, and takes more wickets per Test than that downhill skier Anderson.

[joeljonno]

Is this called a 'stat-off'?

When your office shuts down for Christmas, I have to find something to do.

That howstat site is really interesting.

Carbs has been out 3 caught, 3 LBW and 3 bowled. Nice pretty pie chart too.

Warner only averages 25 overseas.

Watson bowling average is a lot better overseas than in Aus, very interesting stuff on there.

[joeljonno]

Johnson has a better average, strike rate, and takes more wickets per Test than that downhill skier Anderson.

Maybe, but that is not how Gerry rated Johnson & Harris vs Broad & Bresnan with the bat, therefore same rules apply for bowling, in Gerry's case.

 

[ProCricketer1982]

So, are you saying that the proper batsmen shouldn't get more time than the bowlers?

Squad of 20, work for 10 hours a day, that's 30 minutes each per day to work with your best batsmen.

Pretty sure a coach doesn't have to baby sit a player all the time. Work with them, move on while they train it. Go back and check they are doing it etc. plus, they'll have more than one coach

[procricket]

Ohh Mr Bairstow thats just crap.

Laughable he is 2nd choice keeper for England just laughable

[Gerry SA]

Bairstow is a joke of a cricketer.

Wild slogger with the bat and never a Test keeper in a million Sundays...

Kieswetter or Davies are lightyears ahead of this clown

[jw17]

Ohh Mr Bairstow thats just crap.

Laughable he is 2nd choice keeper for England just laughable

I honestly dont think he is, England have just panicked and picked on Prior. It was truely awful selection there was no way in any world Bairstow was going to score more runs or keep better, it's a laughable selection.

[Gerry SA]

Maybe, but that is not how Gerry rated Johnson & Harris vs Broad & Bresnan with the bat, therefore same rules apply for bowling, in Gerry's case.

 

Yeah great logic...

Anderson 😂