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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 01:41:06 PM »

Got to agree with Keiron unlike Football which i must say i get to watch once every two weeks live well my team anyway not one of i doubt watches enough County stuff to really formulate a real decision.


I always find it amazing how many people who don't watch any county cricket know exactly who should be in the Test team.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 01:41:21 PM »

As a captain you are only as good as your bowling attack.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »

As a captain you are only as good as your bowling attack.

Not to mention your batsmen and fielders...
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2013, 01:43:24 PM »

Not to mention your batsmen and fielders...

But first and foremost your bowling attack. I reckon I could've done the job for the West Indies in the 70's no problem. It's easy to set inventive fields when you have control.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2013, 01:45:11 PM »

I always find it amazing how many people who don't watch any county cricket know exactly who should be in the Test team.

Got to agree with that if somebody really asked me about a certain player not even in my own county could i tell you.

I'm as bad as the next man but players like Robson or Chopra who has seen them live in a county championship game 
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2013, 01:53:16 PM »

Got to agree with that if somebody really asked me about a certain player not even in my own county could i tell you.

I'm as bad as the next man but players like Robson or Chopra who has seen them live in a county championship game

I have. But not enough to be convinced by either.

Chopra seems to be the 'in' call at the moment. In the same way that Bairstow and Taylor were, not so long ago.



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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2013, 01:57:18 PM »

There are of course more than one type of leader as well leadership is not always about waving and being the loudest.

But as a leader it is part your responsibility is results.

Lets hope our skipper learns but after all he is the leader of our ship and the barmy army did him proud yesterday by the sounds of it 
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2013, 02:00:49 PM »

Lets hope our skipper learns but after all he is the leader of our ship and the barmy army did him proud yesterday by the sounds of it

I wish someone would sack the Barmy Army.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2013, 02:01:16 PM »

I have seen Robson a fair bit - Mainly because I teach a lad in the Middlesex setup and he has got me my fair share of tickets - Decent, but I am not saying he should be in the test side, just giving a comparison with Chopra. I will say there is a young Zim lad there called Ryan Higgins @ Middlesex (VERY much like Gary Balance) who will play for the England 1-day/T20 setup sooner or later.

But admittedly Malan, Morgan and Neil Dexter are very useful country cricketers BUT Test level is a whole different kettle of fish - None of them good enough in my opinion.

For the players with the ability to play test, your face needs to fit and be lucky with the obvious element of 'dead mans boots' about the whole selection policy. The tagline seems to be "Its yours till you play your way out of it". Great for continuity but I fear the policy has also made a few players a bit lazy.

Personally, James Taylor has paid his dues and deserves a run. I think Stuart Meaker and Tymal Mills need to be looked at as our version of 'Mitch'. Both are very quick bowlers but both need experience of being in, and around, the England set up. Until then, Finn and Rankin are there. However, in English conditions - Anderson, Broad, Bresnan are still your main three and will remain to be so over the next 12 months.

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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2013, 02:01:26 PM »

Clarke and McCullum widely regarded as inventive captains don't have the respect of the dressing room that Cook does I don't think. These are skills that can be learnt though and I'd rather have someone of Cooks standard making an improvement than a fresh inventive captain who's isn't a good enough batsman.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2013, 02:07:36 PM »

Clarke and McCullum widely regarded as inventive captains don't have the respect of the dressing room that Cook does I don't think. These are skills that can be learnt though and I'd rather have someone of Cooks standard making an improvement than a fresh inventive captain who's isn't a good enough batsman.
Clarke and McCullum do have the respect of their sides.

But they aren't particulary loved or liked.

Whereas wngkand operate on the 'love in'. Cook's well liked/loved. But I doubt his captaincy is respected.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2013, 02:08:52 PM »

The man I'd like to see in the England side is Jos Butler he has a real X factor IMO.

Definitely some interesting times ahead for England
Buttler X Factor?

He's another wild slogger.

He gets exposed in Test cricket within 3-5 matches.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2013, 02:16:39 PM »

Will be very surprised if Borthwick plays the final test!
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2013, 02:19:07 PM »

I think Buttler gets a season or two as the everyday keeper for Lancs, whilst keeping in limited overs for England, and then replaces Prior in 2016 as England's no.1 as a game changing no. 7

With Buttler as 'his' keeper for the foreseeable future, that then opens the door for Kegsy to return to the England set-up in 2017 as the replacement for Monty.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2013, 02:21:29 PM »

Why does a WK dictate who your spin bowler is?!
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