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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #105 on: December 30, 2013, 06:13:06 PM »

downton doesn't start until Jan 1st and is a thoroughly good guy. nothing to do with his appointment.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #106 on: December 30, 2013, 06:22:17 PM »

Looking at the latest news reports Flower says he is keen to stay on with England. A bit of a change from a few weeks ago when he refused to comment beyond the end of the series. Perhaps he doesn't want to go out on a 5-0 whitewash?
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #107 on: December 30, 2013, 08:25:31 PM »

Not really, why would'nt he want to rebuild england?
Yes we have been poor and outplayed in this series
It's one series thats all
Clearly england have for things wrong-taking 3 huge bowlers on tour and not playing them for a start
The first thing to do is get bell batting at 3....not root he should be lower down
And this may be controvertial but get prior back in
We have limited choices on tour ballance may get a go soon enough in 2014
And i would bring back nick compton-yes really
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #108 on: December 30, 2013, 09:36:35 PM »

downton doesn't start until Jan 1st and is a thoroughly good guy. nothing to do with his appointment.

Do you know him Buzz ?

I always thigh the was ordinary as a player.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #109 on: December 30, 2013, 09:39:45 PM »

no I don't know him, but he has worked in the city for a number of years and has a very solid reputation.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #110 on: December 30, 2013, 09:54:36 PM »

Do you know him Buzz ?

I always thigh the was ordinary as a player.

never let anyone down, and became more than a cricketer after his career came to an abrupt end.  Not sure there is any reason for undue scepticism?
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #111 on: December 30, 2013, 10:15:11 PM »

There are 3 things that have let England down in this series only in my opinion of course.

1. Cook's poor captaincy ( tactical, field positioning, bowling changes )
2. Batsmen's lack of commitment
3. Anderson's poor performance with the ball ( don't want to hear "oh he is tired, worn out". He doesn't look at all interested and has no passion )

Cook should stay captain simply because their isn't anyone good enough to take over. He needs to sit back and look at his mistakes and talk to who ever he needs to to help correct these mistakes.

They have the batsmen to win but they need to work hard, find the commitment and just bat as long as they can.

Drop Anderson to give him a reality check... He isn't indispensable.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #112 on: December 30, 2013, 11:47:37 PM »

Anderson is a tricky one - he has not been good this series, though to be fair the Australian conditions are those in which he is likely to be least of an influence overall.  I think a combination of tiredness/too much time on the road, those pitches and maybe losing a foot of pace have made him a bit pop gun, but I think he still has a future in the England side.

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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #113 on: December 31, 2013, 01:06:36 PM »

Do you have an example of someone ?

Nasser Hussain. He captained his county, as did most England captains before him. Since Hussain, only Strauss has been a success. Perhaps more by luck than judgement?
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #114 on: December 31, 2013, 03:00:45 PM »

Nasser Hussain. He captained his county, as did most England captains before him. Since Hussain, only Strauss has been a success. Perhaps more by luck than judgement?

that Michael Vaughan bloke, he was a disaster as a captain. better forget his reign. oh.

actually only Flintoff was a failure and even he did well in India
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #115 on: December 31, 2013, 03:29:28 PM »

Flintoff's captaincy manifesto:
1. Play Johnny Cash really loud
2. Have a beer with oppo, what's twelve among friends?
3. ....

Where did it go wrong?
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2013, 05:29:30 PM »

There are 3 things that have let England down in this series only in my opinion of course.

1. Cook's poor captaincy ( tactical, field positioning, bowling changes )
2. Batsmen's lack of commitment
3. Anderson's poor performance with the ball ( don't want to hear "oh he is tired, worn out". He doesn't look at all interested and has no passion )
Similarly I only think three things have let England down in this series:
1) Batting
2) Bowling
3) Fielding
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #117 on: December 31, 2013, 05:35:38 PM »

It's true Cook's decision making on all levels has been extremely poor this series, even down to picking heads or tails at the toss!! but give him a break he's only been in the job a year, during which time he amongst other things:
a) captained a first series win in India for god knows how long
b) won a home Ashes series

I think he needs to sit down with Flower and perhaps Gooch and analyse his mistakes during this series and he strikes me as the sort of skipper who would be willing to listen to constructive criticisms and hopefully improve in the future
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #118 on: January 02, 2014, 11:37:53 AM »

that Michael Vaughan bloke, he was a disaster as a captain. better forget his reign. oh.


Captained his county. (I think.)
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #119 on: January 02, 2014, 11:39:24 AM »

Since Vaughan (I meant him), only Strauss has been a success. :o
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