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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #120 on: January 02, 2014, 01:46:27 PM »

Captained his county. (I think.)

He was captain of England first.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #121 on: January 02, 2014, 03:24:26 PM »

Cook has been average as best with regards his Captaincy since he became Captain, but there are no suitable alternatives in the team. Its hard to see in the current set up where players are suppose to gain any experience at Captaincy especially as the players are not involved with county cricket. Should players with Captain potential be groomed more in the performance squad?
It could be seen as a symptom of a coaching system that places the emphasis on off field analysis and concentrates on details which places little importance on the role of the Captain, which leads to emasculated players and Captain.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #122 on: January 02, 2014, 06:46:20 PM »

T20 and ODI captain.

Not the same, but a step in the right direction.

Broad will be the next captain if Cook steps down and Prior not returning to the fold. Unless Trott returns at some point, however unlikely, he may get a go.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #123 on: January 02, 2014, 06:51:01 PM »

T20 and ODI captain.

Not the same, but a step in the right direction.

Broad will be the next captain if Cook steps down and Prior not returning to the fold. Unless Trott returns at some point, however unlikely, he may get a go.

Even if Trott did return I don't think he'd be in the right condition to captain the team. Would Bell not make a decent choice then?
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #124 on: January 02, 2014, 06:55:15 PM »

Even if Trott did return I don't think he'd be in the right condition to captain the team. Would Bell not make a decent choice then?

Dunno. Personally, can't see it, but I do not know what he is like off the field.

Broad is already getting captaincy experience so is the logical (if not sensible) choice.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #125 on: January 02, 2014, 07:49:40 PM »

Broad doesn't come across as the right person for test captaincy to me personally.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #126 on: January 02, 2014, 08:17:36 PM »

He doesn't, and history stands squarely against it - if you look back over the last 35 years, how many test captains have been front line seamers? I can think of Bob Willis and Ian Botham for England, Darren Sammy and (briefly) Courtney Walsh for the West Indies, Wasim and Waqar for Pakistan and Shaun Pollock (again briefly) for the Yarpies.

Of those, three were unconditional failures, two were interim selections and one was an okay choice.  Sammy I don't rank as I have yet to meet anyone who thought he was actually there for his bowling!
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #127 on: January 02, 2014, 08:19:04 PM »

Imran Khan seems the obvious exception.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #128 on: January 02, 2014, 08:24:27 PM »

I don't think they should let Broad near it. He has too much of a 'hot head'.

Also I think it is very hard to captain a side as a bowler (having done a bit of it myself). When you are bowling you don't get time to rest between overs  (too busy sorting out fields / what to do next / keeping everyone on their game) and when you're not bowling you always thinking 'should I bring myself back on here?' Very difficult job.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #129 on: January 02, 2014, 09:16:40 PM »

Imran Khan seems the obvious exception.

Fair point - I thought about including him but felt that his spells as captain coincided with him being more of a support seamer, though that does not entirely apply to his first stint.  He may therefore, should you wish, stand as "the exception" that proves "the rule"? :)
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #130 on: January 04, 2014, 09:26:17 PM »

I'd like to see Joe Root installed as vice captain and hopefully fast track this guy to England captain. I don't see anyone else unfortunately.

If we were to (No Swearing Please) ourselves and panic and sack cook I would be tempted to give it KP short term. Think we would get a massive reaction from him.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #131 on: January 04, 2014, 09:29:59 PM »

Cook. Done.

There quite simply is, no other viable option.
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #132 on: January 04, 2014, 09:32:24 PM »

I'd like to see Joe Root installed as vice captain and hopefully fast track this guy to England captain. I don't see anyone else unfortunately.

If we were to (No Swearing Please) ourselves and panic and sack cook I would be tempted to give it KP short term. Think we would get a massive reaction from him.

Yeah it would - him sticking two fingers up at the ECB and laughing at the fact he was previously sacked as captain and now they have gone crawling back.

You think he is cocky and arrogant now - he would be unbareable!
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #133 on: January 04, 2014, 09:42:05 PM »

I'd like to see Joe Root installed as vice captain and hopefully fast track this guy to England captain. I don't see anyone else unfortunately.

If we were to (No Swearing Please) ourselves and panic and sack cook I would be tempted to give it KP short term. Think we would get a massive reaction from him.
There might be a massive reaction from him but the rest of the squad would retire!
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Re: Cook - who would take over?
« Reply #134 on: January 04, 2014, 09:54:50 PM »

There might be a massive reaction from him but the rest of the squad would retire!


There's not much of the squad left that was there during "textgate" that would leave.
cook, bell, anderson and broad. non of which can demand high ipl salaries. so they'd all end up staying for there careers anyway.


not that i believe kp should be skipper. important not sure wrong have a leader amongst them at moment. no one seems to stand out as leadership material
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