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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2014, 03:10:57 PM »

Less of the pathetic insults and baiting!
Put a lid on this attitude! You do research and start looking like you make a little sense.....then you can't help yourself and have to insult people!

We have a couple of posters currently who seem to think it's ok to constantly abuse people. Maybe people should just ignore them? Soon get bored
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2014, 03:45:25 PM »

I think England need to develop a more attacking style of cricket. And bring in a few attacking players.

Someone mentioned hales, but I don't agree, but what about his opening partner micheal lumb?
Granted his fc avg is only 37. But he is an attacking minded cricketer, has a few double centuries among his 19 at fc. Level,
Maybe he could be a short term answer?

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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2014, 04:04:53 PM »

Cook's captaincy and batting is under scrutiny at the moment he has really got to think about how to got over a 5-0 Ashes loss as Captain because Flintoff when he lost the Ashes 5-0 he went into a big depression and I wonder if Cook can move on from this
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2014, 04:36:02 PM »

i said it in the pink test thread, what about moeen ali? good batsman and more than handy spinner, i think he should get a look in and is in and around the england set up, been with the lions this winter i beleive
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2014, 05:31:35 PM »

Or my second team, they're often short. Can't guarantee a bat or bowl though.

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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2014, 05:42:23 PM »

Get rid of Cook as captain, shown no faith in the new bowlers.

Also with the bowlers bowling ridiculously short, surely this was a naff tactic or Cook should have had a few words with them. Which I didn't see.
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2014, 06:31:05 PM »

i said it in the pink test thread, what about moeen ali? good batsman and more than handy spinner, i think he should get a look in and is in and around the england set up, been with the lions this winter i beleive

i really rate him as a batsman , would  like to see him in div 1 , but last time i checked his fc bowling average was +40?
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2014, 09:39:50 PM »

Sadly I think we need to face facts in England, we have got an absolute lack of high quality spinners to replace Swann with. Monty has had his detractors not sure his bowling is up to it, never mind his inability to field or even hold the bat, for a professional sportsman his fielding is absolutely awful.
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2014, 10:19:44 PM »

i really rate him as a batsman , would  like to see him in div 1 , but last time i checked his fc bowling average was +40?

Last season Moeen Ali's bowling average was 33 with 28 wickets at less than 3 per over. This might be in division 2 but his figures are better than Briggs, Panesar and Tredwell. He also averaged 62 with the bat. Surely he deserves a chance and would have been a far better bet than Borthwick the pie chucker!
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2014, 02:33:22 PM »

Interesting read on ex players views of what England's side should be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/25638143


I don't think the changes are much different yo what's already been echoed on here.
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2014, 03:06:15 PM »

About time we picked players from less fashionable counties I think .
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2014, 03:13:55 PM »

About time we picked players from less fashionable counties I think .

There shouldn't be fashionable counties. There should just be the best 12 players picked for they squad from whoever they play for.


Having said that, does anyone think the way cricket works. With you generally playing for your county all your career, actually work for a good international side?
Granted there are exceptions to this rule, but there is no where near the transfers an such that go on in football.

I think cricket should be more close to football. The top division has the best sides.w oh have the best players. That way. The best players are playing against the best players every week, week on week out. Through in a few high quality internationals. And the level of the top division improves.

Then when I player is picked for international cricket, the gap shouldn't be so huge, that they have a better chance of settling in.

Granted this would make a huge divide between divisions. But surely that's worth the cost to have a better international set up?


IMO opinion no 2nd div player should be considered for England, and if a 2nddeivision player believes he's Good enough. He needs to get in a div 1 side and prove it.
Not moan he's being looked over,m
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2014, 03:22:41 PM »

Interesting read on ex players views of what England's side should be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/25638143


I don't think the changes are much different yo what's already been echoed on here.


A good article but weak from Harmison and Tuffnel.

Harmison seems to be influenced by what is being said or what may happen, rather than picking the team he would like to see. As an ex professional I'd prefer his input than mirroring what I've already been fed by the media.

Tuffnel has sat so much on the fence that what he's put is also pointless. He's put a starting 11 of 16 players based on who's performing.  Again not much insight provided....
Interesting he puts Morgan in the frame but this seems to me like a lack of knowledge of other county players.


I'm not a fan of his but Vaughn seems to get the article and provides the best response for me.
I knew of Tymal Mills, not so much of Jamie Overton or Sam Robson so that's a new player for me to go look into. I'm sure he's been mentioned on here loads, my finger is just not on the county circuit pulse as much as most of this forum :(

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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2014, 03:22:58 PM »

Really good input from Tufnell, just picks 16 players to fill 11 spots, sit on the fence even more why don't you Phil
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Re: Where do england go from here?
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2014, 03:25:59 PM »

Get the Worcester lads in!

Moeen has to be in with a shout surely?
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