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[smilley792]

Interesting stats sheet on cric info. Which shows the English batsmen vs Aussie bowler on a basis off balls faced.




As we can see joe root, faced Mitchell Johnston far more than anyone else did. And he played 1 textless than the rest.
He's been classed as out of from and poor, yet the dark destroyer and man of the series only got him out twice in 226 balls?

Shows he played him well, and in true dig in style of boycott.

[procricket]

Clutching at straws time I'm afraid  for me Chris he simply is not the player he has been hyped up to be . He has much time to progress but needs to do it back at his county for me

Strike rate of 26 sorry but that is not good enough it would take him 73 overs or so if he faced every ball to score 100.

But the rest were not much better granted

[joeljonno]

But the rest were not much better granted

Well, statistically speaking (going on series average) only KP, Carbs and Stokes were better, all the rest were worse, including Cook and Bell.

[smilley792]

Haha, you do hate root dave.


He clearly is out of touch, I just thought it was interesting that he faced him the most, and still only got out twice to him(in 8innings)

Strike rate is low, but is it an offence to see off the Aussies best bowler?

The way I'm looking at it is if cook, Carberry, bell, and pietersen and shown as much restraint to Johnston, surely our innings would have been longer, which in turn would have tired both johnston(he sat out today, and didn't look as sharp in last odi) and Harris, which could have forced him out of later tests.

Aussies were clearly a class above us and we deserved to win 5-0. The chart above. Shows we lacked application.

[procricket]

Forget averages for one second to me Root looked like the little kid who made the step up into the 2nds from the 3rds and although does not look in touch much bother still looks like a kid amongst men.  Bell had the same look as well in years gone by.

Root crossroads is coming I wish him look because he certainly has talent

I do not hate Root mate but do not buy into him being the best player since sliced bread I feel a tad sorry for him to be honest so much hype about him.

If you look though we batted to laboured all the time seeing off is one thing no imputus is another

Australia ran us ragged in every department to pick bones is simple not worth it they played there old brand we went back to be lackluster. Application is one thig but at times we played ing there hands with out lets say patent approach.

It can not get any worst for me

[Cedrictoad]

That chart also points out how ineffective Lyon was... surely that is a weak spot to attack next series!

[WalkingWicket37]

That chart also points out how ineffective Lyon was... surely that is a weak spot to attack next series!

Well as it keeps being pointed out on here, he is only a club level spinner

[jw17]

Carberry smashed Lyon everywhere, good lad!

[Number4]

19 wickets at 29 and all mostly top order batsmen is say Lyon done his job well to embarrass England's batsmen during this ashes series.

Look at the big picture boys. Numbers on a page means nothing without the rest of the story

[awp]

Smiley - there's clutching at straws, and then there's this..... Joe Root is clearly an outstanding young man, but I don't see how he currently gets selected for an England x1 in any format.

[Manormanic]

Well as it keeps being pointed out on here, he is only a club level spinner

hey, thats my line! 

[Manormanic]

Smiley - there's clutching at straws, and then there's this..... Joe Root is clearly an outstanding young man, but I don't see how he currently gets selected for an England x1 in any format.

Dunno, have you seen how bad the bowling is? I mean, seriously - we're finishing third in a two horse race!

As a serious point, Root hasn't batted badly per se, he just hasn't quite worked out his own game yet - which is why it is rarely a great idea to pitch a kid of 21 into Test cricket.  He can do attritional, he can do ODI strokeplay, he just doesn't quite seem to know how to blend the two to build an innings, hence whilst he lasted well throughout the test series (and lets bear in mind here, he did have a couple of decisions that smelt badly which pulled his average down), he played just a single innings of substance.  He needs to be shown support, which means he starts the Sri Lanka series next Summer and is given the seven tests - in a single batting spot - to develop on his potential.