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Overpitching
« on: January 23, 2014, 11:55:51 AM »

Having converted from a crap left-arm spin to wobbly swing I need a little bit of technical advice.

I'm bowling left-arm round medium dribble, and I can definately swing it but I do seem to overpitch a few.

One of the problems is I don't seem to be able to follow-through the crease properly. I'm stopping after release rather than driving through  - would this be a symptom? I seem to be pitching it up a yard or so more than i want to occasionally, so I'm trying to drop the shoulder slightly at the point of delivery.

Any ideas or excercises to help develop the follow-through and to correct over-pitching?
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 11:58:09 AM »

Although you're trying to drop the front shoulder i would definitely say try and use your front arm a bit more. Although not looking to gain any extra pace, trying to bring that arm down a little quicker and possibly tighter to the body might bring the ball a touch shorter.
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 12:02:51 PM »

Ahhh - that's the other thing i forgot - although it's a fairly chest-on action, I believe I still need to get front arm and bowling arm as 'tall' or high as possible yes?
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 12:06:18 PM »

Overthinking it my friend.

You bowled spin and that makes you naturally pitch fuller when you revert to trundle. It's habit. Are you bowling full tosses or just a full length?. To be honest if it's the latter then it's fine.

Don't drop your right arm, this will lead to lack of control both in length and line. If anything you need to get more side on and bring your arm down higher. You body has to be driving in a straight line towards the stumps. The way I think of it is law of averages - if you arm swings vertically the ball will go in a straight line everytime and then it's simply a matter of release point determining length. If you drop your right arm you risk falling away and dragging the left arm off vertical. As soon as that happens both you length and line are totally dependent on release point. Release early and it flies outside off and too full, release late and it goes down leg and short.
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 12:40:42 PM »

I largely agree with this...
You bowled spin and that makes you naturally pitch fully when you revert to trundle. It's habit. As you bowling full tosses or just a full length?. To be honest if it's the latter then it's fine.

- from a batsman's perspective, get your best catchers at cover and mid wicket and watch the ball loop to them as the early season wickets dupe the indoor net trained batsmen into over ambitious drives to your "in never gets there" jaffas.
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 12:43:44 PM »

Stay as you are mate - if you are bowling at blokes like me you are plenty good enough - if you are bowling at blokes with ability you'll get some tap whatever you do.  ;)
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 01:37:09 PM »

I largely agree with this...
- from a batsman's perspective, get your best catchers at cover and mid wicket and watch the ball loop to them as the early season wickets dupe the indoor net trained batsmen into over ambitious drives to your "in never gets there" jaffas.
Great plan from a bowler's perspective too. Gets many wickets. And when you get to the latter part of the season, drop the men to the boundary, then you'll get plenty of catches as they miscue those "it never gets there" balls... Or get stumped having a charge...

The other thing you'll find in a match situation is that you'll have the keeper standing up to you which will make a big difference to the ease with which those balls get whacked...
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 01:42:27 PM »

Ok - so basically: don't overthink it - stand up tall - get the arms up.

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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 04:43:35 PM »

Better too be too full than too short.
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 11:43:00 PM »

You'll take the wickets in! Always amusing to see 'pace' bowlers bowling 75 ish get nothing and then some medium plod come on and take 5 fors as batsmen go after them.. Just makes me laugh (except when I myself fall for it :( )
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 07:39:01 PM »

"Your body has to be driving in a straight line towards the stumps."

Nick, can you explain this a little more? Do you mean chest on towards the far stumps or side on towards the far stumps?
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 11:24:26 PM »

Either chest on or side on doesn't matter. The point is that head, bowling arm and front foot are all driving towards the stumps you are aiming at. I suppose all I'm saying is if you are falling away in your action then you lose control of where the ball goes.

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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2014, 04:26:53 PM »

You'd rather be full on an April wicket anyway.
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2014, 04:32:59 PM »

No - I'd rather pitch it!
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Re: Overpitching
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 04:39:41 PM »

No - I'd rather pitch it!

But the full toss is a well known and effective method of dismissing a very good bat?
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