Topic: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be? (Read 5827 times)

FvanN · « **on:** January 23, 2014, 10:16:11 PM »

Having never owned a top of the line 'Pro' bat I thought I would ask is there really that much difference between a grade 1 bat that retails for under �200 and a 'pro' bat that sells for over �300.

Gingerbusiness · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2014, 10:20:29 PM »

Quote from: FvanN on January 23, 2014, 10:16:11 PM

Having never owned a top of the line 'Pro' bat I thought I would ask is there really that much difference between a grade 1 bat that retails for under �200 and a 'pro' bat that sells for over �300.

Not hugely. The pro's will get the best clefts (Lower density, better grains etc.) BUT we know this doesn't mean the best performance.

They just get the choice of what they want and what suits them best.

Blank Bats · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2014, 10:36:25 PM »

Mr Hosking will be the best equipped to answer this one. The man with more pro bats than errrrrr a pro.

FvanN · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2014, 10:47:15 PM »

Quote from: Gingerbusiness on January 23, 2014, 10:20:29 PM

Not hugely. The pro's will get the best clefts (Lower density, better grains etc.) BUT we know this doesn't mean the best performance.

They just get the choice of what they want and what suits them best.

I was thinking more about the bats available to us not so gifted players

procricket · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2014, 10:56:49 PM »

Most pro bats are no different that me or you use but the proper Top line batsman pro bats are different in every way.

Out perform,bigger,more value but they simply do not last as long but boy there good to have whilst they last.

Most so called Pro bats are not either..

Unless you see it with the batch i wouldn't call them pro bats..

Most proffesionals are less fussy than people on here the ones i have meet played against and been told about..

Gingerbusiness · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2014, 11:16:29 PM »

Quote from: procricket on January 23, 2014, 10:56:49 PM

Most pro bats are no different that me or you use but the proper Top line batsman pro bats are different in every way.

Out perform,bigger,more value but they simply do not last as long but boy there good to have whilst they last.

Most so called Pro bats are not either..

Unless you see it with the batch i wouldn't call them pro bats..

Most proffesionals are less fussy than people on here the ones i have meet played against and been told about..

Usually really lightly pressed but they dont need them to last as they will just get another out of the wrapper!

procricket · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2014, 11:22:22 PM »

Quote from: Gingerbusiness on January 23, 2014, 11:16:29 PM

Usually really lightly pressed but they dont need them to last as they will just get another out of the wrapper!

The ones i have seen where pressed the same way as anybody bats they where just lighter due to density and and that is the reason they get catastrophic breaks due to the density not pressing. Some of them just get the best bits of wood but i wouldn't say the ones i have seen where pressed any different than mine or your normal bats.

For me the best shop bats or custom bats will be just as good

And the selection process by the maker i guess will be different than a shop bat as well.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2014, 11:31:10 PM »

I have a pro bat from Newbery & Salix. These are the best bats I have owned that was a genuine pro cleft. I would say the difference is the size of cleft to weight ratio and then the ping. By ping I mean its instant no knocking in, opening up it just flies instantly.

I have no doubt that others will be just as good bunt my opinion genuine pro bats graded by someone that can really tell a special cleft will be a better bat. Downside it will be very soft so to gain most from it, it won't last long. To make it last longer you would knock it in and condense fibres to make it just like most regular top grade available in shops if that makes sense.

Those are my views anyway.

Tom · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2014, 12:03:13 AM »

Are we talking pro grade (G1+) bats, as bought in the shops? If so - probably not a massive difference between that and a regular �200 bat. Obviously you'll get some better than others, go and handpick a �200 bat that suits you and it'll be as good/if not better than anything at the �300 level.

Are we talking about pro, as in Div 2 Ave. County Batsman? Again, probably not much difference than you get from the shelf.

If we're talking Top 10 in the world, Tendulkar level pro - then of course they'll get the lowest density best performing clefts made by the best batmakers. But what makes the difference is the skill.

tim2000s · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2014, 12:13:22 AM »

What Tom said. The real difference between pro willow and off the shelf willow is the hands holding it.

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amritpremi · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:03:29 AM »

I feel the International Pro level batsmen's bats are defintely different (much lighter and better performing), the ones we see in the store are usually not the ones pro use. I have seen most of us (club level cricketer's) breaking more bats than Pros do usually, it's down to the batsmen who weild the weapon. I remember commentator during a match when Tendulkar's scored his 97'th or 98'th Ton (not sure, could be 1 or more here and there) that he has scored 37% of his centuries with the same bat, that would be around 33-35 Tons. I also know Sachin takes a lot of care of his bats.

sgcricket · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:26:55 AM »

I think he scored 14-15 centuries with that particular bat.

trypewriter · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:45:06 AM »

One factor worth considering is that the pros play far more cricket, day in, day out, therefore, if they do have a favourite bat it will be very thoroughly played in. I think that a lot of us weekend warriors (myself included) get impatient with our bats and don't give them as much chance to totally open up.

amritpremi · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2014, 09:26:40 AM »

Quote from: sgcricket on January 24, 2014, 08:26:55 AM

I think he scored 14-15 centuries with that particular bat.

I thought the commentator was comparing with all 100 or 97-98 centuries hes scored, nevertheless even 15 international centuries with 1 bat would be amazing, has to be a serious piece of willow looking at the fact the amount of cricket he played.

FvanN · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2014, 09:39:10 AM »

So Pro 'pro' bats aside. .

So if a grade 1 �200 bat will perform almost as well or as well as a �300+ bat the added cost must surely be down to looks ?

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