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amritpremi

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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2014, 09:47:21 AM »
Quote from: FvanN on January 24, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
So Pro 'pro' bats aside. .

So if a grade 1 £200 bat will perform almost as well or as well as a £300+ bat the added cost must surely be down to looks ?

yes aesthetics is the major factor in the added cost.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2014, 10:15:07 AM »
Quote from: amritpremi on January 24, 2014, 09:47:21 AM
yes aesthetics is the major factor in the added cost.

Throw in a bit of clever marketing and hey presto! Profit!
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2014, 10:41:57 AM »
On the topic of Pro bats, do the Pros really use the bats manufactured by the maker or just put stickers on? How many intl cricketers actually use the actual bat with the advertised shape etc..?
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2014, 11:08:40 AM »
Quote from: mo_town on January 24, 2014, 10:41:57 AM
On the topic of Pro bats, do the Pros really use the bats manufactured by the maker or just put stickers on? How many intl cricketers actually use the actual bat with the advertised shape etc..?
Not sure how anyone can answer that other than - some do, some don't.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2014, 11:42:43 AM »
Agree with Tom here.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2014, 02:31:48 PM »
I've been blessed with two bats destined for pro's but reallocated to my untalented hands.

The first was a Newbery. It looks non-descript, feels no different, but pings, well it pings like nothing I've ever seen.

The latest, and current match bat, is a H4L. Matt let me rummage through his stash and hand pick a raw cleft last year. I came away with a bat which is way too good for me. In my hands it looks OK, but I lent it to our best batter and he sent the ball miles. SO impressed, he ordered an exact copy from Matt.

Are they different? Yes.
Do they go better? Yes.
Do they make us feel good? Of course!
Do they make us better? Nope.

In short, some people will always want the best, but I'll take any bat which works, regardless of grade.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2014, 02:42:49 PM »
Quote from: fasteddie on January 24, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
I've been blessed with two bats destined for pro's but reallocated to my untalented hands.

The first was a Newbery. It looks non-descript, feels no different, but pings, well it pings like nothing I've ever seen.

The latest, and current match bat, is a H4L. Matt let me rummage through his stash and hand pick a raw cleft last year. I came away with a bat which is way too good for me. In my hands it looks OK, but I lent it to our best batter and he sent the ball miles. SO impressed, he ordered an exact copy from Matt.

Are they different? Yes.
Do they go better? Yes.
Do they make us feel good? Of course!
Do they make us better? Nope.

In short, some people will always want the best, but I'll take any bat which works, regardless of grade.

Ah but are they worth the extra £150+ price tag??
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2014, 02:54:23 PM »
Quote from: FvanN on January 24, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
Ah but are they worth the extra £150+ price tag??

Not in my eyes.
I wouldn't pay the money the money asked by most of the brands for the best clefts.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2014, 03:22:33 PM »
Spend your  money on coaching if you want more out of batting.

No bat will make you good if your crap.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2014, 03:50:02 PM »
Quote from: procricket on January 24, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
Spend your  money on coaching if you want more out of batting.

No bat will make you good if your crap.
Incorrect, I've just spent, well, a lot on a GN E41 Test bat and I can tell as I shadow bat that I'm going to be much better this year compared to last year!  ;)
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2014, 03:53:41 PM »
Quote from: procricket on January 24, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
Spend your  money on coaching if you want more out of batting.

No bat will make you good if your crap.

Nuff said.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2014, 04:48:16 PM »
Quote from: procricket on January 24, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
No bat will make you good if your crap.


True, but if you're any good, a quality bat will make a difference. Might just be in the head, but it does make a difference. Seen it many times.

Ask Sachin.


P.S. Can't stand Harsha Bhogle, but as they say "don't dismiss good info just because you don't like the source"
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2014, 01:54:30 PM »
Quote from: procricket on January 24, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
Spend your  money on coaching if you want more out of batting.

No bat will make you good if your crap.

This.

Get weekly coaching for a year, plus do extra bowling machine sessions in between and you will notice a bigger difference than simply changing bats.

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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2014, 01:29:31 AM »
I have a shahid afridi bat that he took to the Hong Kong 6's he uses a surprisingly light bat, it was 2'9. Nothing particularly special about the bat but he did hit an almighty 6 with it, at least 100 metres before he chucked it (gave it to someone who swapped it for one of my bats) and started using one of Abdul razzaq's bat (monstrous, biggest bat I have ever seen).
The bat looks like a standard SS bat which it was with boomboom stickers. Standard SS shape which I don't like as the middle is too low but if you get it out of the middle it does fly.
In conclusion for me a 'pro bat' is just a bat that a pro uses or has used it doesn't make it better. The most important thing is whether the bat suits you I.e. Low middle front foot player and high middle back foot player. The difference in quality isn't drastic. If you are after a soft pressed bat with a huge profile just look at a CA bat. I believe you'll find a lot of players use or have used their bats. From what I have heard/seen to name a few examples of non CA sponsored players: Amla (uses 2'5!!!!! All in his wrists), Kohli and De Villiers.
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Re: Pro bats - all they cracked up to be?
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2014, 11:10:57 AM »
Lad at my club got his hands on two genuine pro bats from a lad at Notts

Absolute guns but he's used one in nets already and its spit

Doesn't matter how good the bat is if you don't prep it properly.

Too many club players want the best kit but honestly don't know what to do with it
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