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[golden duck]

Rampant speculation ahead...

Isn't mick newell linked with eng coach job. Could be paving the way for him to step in (think he was at notts for KP's one season)

Don't the look of the team without KP, but there must be something big behind the scenes. Ecb surely aren't dumb enough to cut their noses off...

[procricket]

I blame crap leadership I really do from the top .

Yes kp has a ego yes he is at time I have no doubt a bit of a tit but this is ment to be a national side surely leadership at the top is t blame for not sorting this out and the whole organization is a joke.   World class cricket deserves world class leadership at the top


I will use the Liverpool situation last year look at Suarez he wanted to leave he wanted to do this that and the other.  Great leadership pulled that round leadership at the top.  And no I do not like Liverpool



I think the decision makes it feel like a school yard selection this is supposed to be picking the best so what is going on.

Joke organization

[Bulldog Cricket]

But 6 months ago we had just won the ashes and we were in the top 3 in the world, we had one of the best coaches in the world in Flower, a young captain who was breaking all England batting records and would go on and break even more. We had the best keeper batsman in the world, number 1 bowler in the world etc etc.

So don't think its a Joke organisation, just going through a very very difficult period.

[procricket]

The writing on the wall when the story of either him or me surfaced and the last last rumbles.

What your best player is no longer wanted
Your coach who basically says I will continue but not with him then walks.

Say it anyway you like it currently it is a joke.

Who next kit of Spain think I could be saving some money by not going
I hold on Pujara is coming over guess there some light

[smilley792]

atherton  on sky news saying cook will have been the key voice in kps removal.


which to me says. cook isn't good enough to be in charge.

[ProCricketer1982]

Team harmony?
Team have to be mates?
Team sport?

Did the great Aussie side all like each other? He'll no, but they played together. Did all the great Wi like each other? Probably not...

Utter rubbish. Yes it is at the amateur level, because whether you play ECB prem or div 298 you are there for fun. These players are professionals, it's their bloody job! I don't care If flower hates KP, it's not his job to tel me he's a prat, it's his job to manage said prat and coach him to the benefit of England.

KP I've no doubt has an ego on him, but by god he's are best batsmen. It's just ridiculous. ECB are just bean counters laughing all the way to the bank. Crap leadership, crap organisation of the game in general. In it for the cash rather than the game.

[procricket]

You can imagine the Ecb now thinking oh it only Sri Lanka and India bowling this summer surely a couple of batsman will come through against there lack luster attacks.

No disrespect ment to India and Sri Lanka followers there either

[Montys Beard]

Hey - we've not got a bad cast-offs team now!

Compton
Trott
KP*
Taylor
Bopara
Morgan
Prior +
Woakes
Kerrigan
Onions
Finn

Not sure about Piers Morgan at 6 Fattus, thought he was dreadful against Lee in Melbourne

I personally think there's more to this. England have tolerated KP for years, do you think he's got worse as I can't see it? I know he's got a lot of business interests going on now as he's clearly thinking about life after cricket, his bars, clothing range etc so not sure if this has been a factor? Like when Sir Alex lost his rag with Ferdinand...

Either way Englands management have to look at this and see the timing is all wrong, Trott is on hiatus, Cook and Prior can't buy a run, they don't know what to do with Root - so we drop our highest scoring batsman of the last tour? Ridiculous....

[A-Swing-And-A-Miss]

Why are the ECB still pushing this "broken dressing room" line onto us? What could KP have possibly done/said to completely destroy Cook's ability to judge which balls to leave and which to hit, Carberry's ability to catch along with Jimmy and Swanny's ability to take wickets. Was it also his fault that England brought along 3 out-of-form 6ft+ bowlers, an injured "all-rounder", a part-time wicket-keeper with an existing technical issue and just one back-up batsmen who had faced just 2 balls at international level.. Whilst knowing that they had a batsman with an existing mental illness..

KP was England's leading scorer in this disastrous Ashes series just like he was in 06-07, and what is his reward for actually performing with some spirit whilst everybody around him failed? He's been thrown under the bus. The ECB have scapegoated KP to avoid people questioning the ridiculous decisions that were made when deciding on the touring party.. Disgraceful.

[lexx]

Feels like we are going back too the 90's style of ECB,they dont have a clue with anything.I for one think England will be spiraling down again to utter rubbish.What the hell has happened? Its scary how quickly this has blown up in such a short space of time.

[skip1973]

Team harmony?
Team have to be mates?
Team sport?

Did the great Aussie side all like each other? He'll no, but they played together. Did all the great Wi like each other? Probably not...

Utter rubbish. Yes it is at the amateur level, because whether you play ECB prem or div 298 you are there for fun. These players are professionals, it's their bloody job! I don't care If flower hates KP, it's not his job to tel me he's a prat, it's his job to manage said prat and coach him to the benefit of England.

KP I've no doubt has an ego on him, but by god he's are best batsmen. It's just ridiculous. ECB are just bean counters laughing all the way to the bank. Crap leadership, crap organisation of the game in general. In it for the cash rather than the game.

How professional was it to text info about Strauss to the SA team?
Good on the ECB for showing that one person is not bigger than the game.

[The_Bird]

I hope KP scores loads in the IPL and millions of runs for Surrey in all forms. His innings against Steyn and Morkel with live long in my memory. Such a class player and I still can't imagine an England team without KP doing well. Can anyone else think of a player still in good form being effectively retired by his country with no replacement?


Huge mistake England.

http://youtu.be/aLp2QsaOvcI

[procricket]

Wonder if kp just told cook he was a s@@t  skipper

[Jenko]

Sounds like what happened to poor old Katich...maybe KP gave Cook one for being a s*** skipper

[lewis_faulds]

Katich is the stand out..