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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #165 on: February 06, 2014, 12:48:24 PM »

There is a reason the 2005 Ashes brought the nation to a stand still and probably got more kids playing cricket that ever before (me included) Hard hitting batsman, fast bowlers, high run rates and close matches. What does England have out of that criteria now?

KP was a new player in 2005. There will be more new players...
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #166 on: February 06, 2014, 01:23:39 PM »

KP was a new player in 2005. There will be more new players...

I'm on about the team as a whole not just KP

Trescothick
Flintoff
KP

Flintoff
Harmison
Jones

They make games exciting and we have no players like them anymore
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #167 on: February 06, 2014, 03:31:07 PM »

No point getting bums on seat if you can't win. Cricket team is there to win games first, raise money second.

He may be the best batsman in some eyes yet if he is bringing multiple people down by whatever means then he is not worth it. If (and is a big if) the reason Cook has been failing is partially due to KP and this solves that problem then good.

One man does not make a team.
If Cook is failing because of the reported behaviour of KP, then I'm afraid it points to Cook having no clue as to how to Captain the team. The worst reports seem to indicate KP expressed doubts about the training regime. Surely as England Captain you should be able to man manage small incidents like that. As a Captain on the field Cook looks limited, seems he's just as limited off field with the man management side of things.
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #168 on: February 06, 2014, 03:31:17 PM »

I have tickets to trent bridge test next year, disappointed I won't get to see KP bat :(

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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #169 on: February 06, 2014, 04:03:45 PM »

I'm going to watch sangakkara and pujara and stokes
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #170 on: February 06, 2014, 05:52:50 PM »

There is a reason the 2005 Ashes brought the nation to a stand still and probably got more kids playing cricket that ever before (me included) Hard hitting batsman, fast bowlers, high run rates and close matches. What does England have out of that criteria now?

exactly this. The old timers at work are all jumping for joy that KP is gone but 2005 did more for cricket in this county than.. well god knows when. I have no doubt that if we looked at the stats for ticket sales, sponsorhips, player wages, number of people playing the sport (adults and children), number of media stories all shot up post 2005.. why.. because it was pure entertainment. I wonder how many of the current brands, smaller brands and retailers would even have entered teh market if 2005 hadnt' happened?? There wouldn't be the demand as there wouldn't be the number of players. I know for certain I doubt I'd have come into the game for instance, and I sure as hell won't be the only person to have started because of 2005.

Yes dour cricket will win you matches and if you are a hardcore supporter (judging by county cricket there aren't that many around!) you will be happy but if you are the 'masses' of normal people you want entertaining for your money.. Cricket if it wants to grow in popularity, have more attendances at games, more sponsorships, more adults and kids playing the game.. needs to provide that. Watching some boring team grind out results, producing PR lead media crap with stuffy management isnt' going to achieve that. By all means lets go back even further towards obscurity where only a small % of the nation gave a crap about cricket.. watch counties stuggle more.. watch teh ECB start to lose out on ££ as sky won't keep paying top wack for a sport that isn't generating the sales (they only bought into it after 2005 after all!).. yes you want to win, but there is a way to win that will captivate people and inspire them. Watching people grind out 500-6 and bowl 'tight lines' at medium plod and bore them out isn't going to do that long term.

I think i read somewhere or heard some league chairman mention that player numbers are dropping overall within the local leagues again.. kids numbers aren't as high as they were a few years ago and the amount staying in the game is down.... Whole host of reasons of course for that but something the ECB can do is make sure it's up there in terms of entertainment!!

The amount of clubs struggling for players, teams folding etc is staggering.. I don't really care what they do with KP, sacking him won't affect me one bit. It will affect cricket it this country though as it's been a while since the county had a inspirational player to cheer on.. I've not followed it long enough but it looks like England had botham.................... flintoff.. Kp.. that's it.. Strauss, Cook, Trott arent' exactly going to keep the non hardcore people watchign are they!
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #171 on: February 09, 2014, 06:33:25 PM »

Interesting news release from the ECB.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/ecb-and-pca-statement
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #172 on: February 09, 2014, 06:39:58 PM »

A statement aimed solely at Piers Morgan. This will run and run.
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #173 on: February 09, 2014, 06:49:45 PM »

Piers Morgan and KP I'd suggest...
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #174 on: February 09, 2014, 06:51:21 PM »

So basically cook feels he has lost the trust of KP

Bloody hell after watching his captaincy KP was only possibly talking what we where all thinking.

I can understand the undermining effect of some but maybe it also a sign of poor leadership too.

Think Cook should stand down too
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #175 on: February 09, 2014, 06:52:34 PM »

The longer this goes on the longer the ECB look a bit stupid if you ask me. They think they can just release a statement and that's enough for people to shut up and hand over their money for tickets etc.

any organisation that feels they need to issue statements purely for that buffoon piers Morgan deserves questioning in my book
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #176 on: February 09, 2014, 06:53:54 PM »

i dont understand why they paid so much attention to what piers morgan said and realsed KP because he doesnt fit into their mould
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #177 on: February 09, 2014, 07:01:46 PM »

Net off the day cook is a crap captain no matter what way you look at it.

His captaincy needs ending too
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2014, 07:01:52 PM »

All I saw there was.


Fans we care little about you, go away,


Piers Morgan, stop slagging off our cricketers. Kp stop telling him stuff.


Cook, we will back you and everything you say or want. No matter the results.
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Re: Is that the end of KP?
« Reply #179 on: February 09, 2014, 07:02:57 PM »

So bcsically kp told cook he is a (No Swearing Please) captain
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