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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #180 on: February 18, 2014, 12:24:39 AM »

Gents,

Agree to disagree. Granted he is in fabulous form and in the past two matches has scored more runs than I ever will.. So accept that he is batting well and it's against a good Indian attack that ripped through Australia and took SA to the wire so not completely incompetent. Although the stats can suggest otherwise 9 test centuries (4 vs Ind, 2 vs Bang, 1 vs Aus, 1 vs WI and 1 vs Zim) with a batting average of 36.36 (p.s. He used to bat 7!)
Stats often lie and don't tell the full story. All I can say is having watched most of BMcC's innings last test and a good bit of this test all I can say is he looks nothing like his t20 self. He batted like a test cricketer and a good one of that.
I'd leave it at; he is a good batsmen when he gets his head down and concentrates but sometimes he can throw his wicket away eg. He was dropped 3 times under 25 on his way to 300!
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #181 on: February 18, 2014, 12:40:21 AM »

So you can't improve? His stats are not great but over the last few years he has improved out of sight. His average over the last couple of years has gone from below 30 to high 30's, I'm going to say he keeps getting better and his stats will also improve.

So a substandard test player has scored 2 doubles and now a triple? I'm going to assume your at your keyboard having a good old laugh and your actually just a joker with a great sense of humor. Unless this is the case then your are truly the most delusional person I have ever had a conversation with.
Guilty as charged :D

Well played Brendon McCullum. Well played James Neesham.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #182 on: February 18, 2014, 12:42:21 AM »

Well it seems as though I've over stayed my welcome.

It's been fun while it lasted.

As someone mentioned earlier, maybe I'll go back to boxing...

Gracias por invitarme!
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #183 on: February 18, 2014, 12:44:50 AM »

He played very well, well done. I don't think he gave any chances post the 3 initial drops (as far as I know). He has always been an entertaining batsman verging on the spectacular at times (especially in the short formats) but that was a very well constructed innings (granted a bit of luck). I think he will face bigger tests than the Indian lineup and time will tell how much he has developed as a test batsman. For now, congratulations to him and also Jimmy Neesham.

Also the Indian lineup ripped Australia at home, in Australia we got flogged, Clarke could have scored 500 if he wanted (when he got 329*) - they did reasonably well in SA, but really should have beaten SA in the first match, but again let another big partnership happen. Not undermining FAF or AB's efforts in any way, but they let it slip.

Interesting article on India's underperformance overseas, worth a read for the Indian fans.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-india-2014/content/story/719985.html
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #184 on: February 18, 2014, 12:53:18 AM »

BMcC was dropped by Kohli, Sharma and Jadeja? I think the latter were both half chances but kohli's was a dolly and he went with one hand..I watched it happen.. And I'm sure I'm not seeing things.. I hope  :-[
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #185 on: February 18, 2014, 12:54:27 AM »

Well, India 2 down, I hope they manage a draw at least. If they lose, it really will be one of the more humiliating defeats.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #186 on: February 18, 2014, 12:55:05 AM »

I'd like to admit being wrong in the fact he was dropped twice. By Sharma and Kohli
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #187 on: February 18, 2014, 01:14:25 AM »

I thought it was three, at least someone told me so. I know of Kohli and Sharma, can't remember who the third was. Maybe it was 2.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #188 on: February 18, 2014, 01:20:30 AM »

Kohli really lucky there, not given out caught behind. Huge nick there.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #189 on: February 18, 2014, 01:41:27 AM »

BM was dropped on 9 by Kholi (should have been taken!) and on 36 by Sharma (tougher as Sharma was bowling and was hit straight back at him, and it didn't stick)
The third drop was only barely half a chance - he was on around 150 or so, and edged one that flew low and quickly but slip couldn't get there, as was was a low dive to his right.
So one straighforward catch on 9, one tougher (wil it stick or not) chance on 36, and a half chance later on!

And agreed - Kholi was lucky and was a shocking decision by the umpire.
I reckon the fielders on the boundary heard that, as it was such a big nick! Still, I guess you win some and lose some! Very embarrassing for the Umpire!
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #190 on: February 18, 2014, 02:04:47 AM »

WWWASP co-creator looks at odds of McCullum’s triple test century

 

February 18, 2014

 

University of Canterbury economics lecturer Dr Seamus Hogan, the co-creator of the WASP limited-overs Predictor on Sky television, has looked at the odds of Black Caps test cricket skipper Brendon McCullum reaching 300 against India in Wellington today.

 

``It depends a lot on how you phrase the question of odds,’’ Dr Hogan says.

 

``But some simple back-of-the-envelope calculations can illustrate how special this innings was.

 

``Assuming he was going to score at the same rate as his career average (in fact, his strike rate in this innings was lower than this), he would have needed 490 balls to reach 300, and given his career dismissal rate, would only have a 0.0232 percent of surviving that long without being dismissed.

 

``That is, one would expect to see it only once every 4310 innings. And this does not take into account any tiredness that sets in in a long innings.

 

``Furthermore, being dismissed is not the only reason one can fail to reach 300. The other possibility is being left not-out when all other batsmen are dismissed.

 

``Based on the test career dismissal rates of the batsmen who had not already been dismissed when McCullum came to bat, and assuming the strike was shared equally between the two batsmen at the crease, the average number of balls that would be faced by the other batsmen before they were all dismissed was only 294, well below the 490 McCullum would have needed to get 300 based on his career strike rate.

 

``This suggests that the probability of McCullum even having had the opportunity to face as many deliveries as he has was very low and shows how important BJ Watling and Jimmy Neesham’s innings were in giving McCullum the opportunity to push for 300.

 

``There are all sorts of statistical reasons why these probabilities are not exact, but the rough calculation illustrates just how special this innings has been, without even considering the context of the game in which it was been scored,’’ Dr Hogan says.

 

McCullum’s marathon innings lasted 759 minutes and was off 559 balls.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #191 on: February 18, 2014, 05:19:29 AM »

Someone scoring a 300 in any form of the game cannot be an average player.
Well done McCullum!! Also, loved the conversation in the post-match presentation.. his simplicity and humbleness came across..
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #192 on: February 18, 2014, 05:56:47 AM »

If he gets 400 I'll open a bottle Marlborough Sav Blanc, who am I kidding I'll do it if he gets 300........ Ok I'm going to do it regardless!

I am about to start toasting, didn't see any part of the game  today :(
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #193 on: February 18, 2014, 09:51:56 AM »

Interesting how he's come into form after dropping the glovework. Everyone saying he belted 300 against a woeful Indian attack obviously forgot New Zealand were in serious danger of losing the match at 80odd - 5 when he rescued it. That takes some serious gonads and I for one think it was a quality knock.
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Re: Test New Zealand, slapping India about
« Reply #194 on: February 18, 2014, 10:58:36 AM »

I'd love to know why India are so poor away from home?
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