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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 05:58:36 AM »

Haha "Sheep bothering" classic. Poor old Jesse, beaten to an inch of his life while on the drink and now this. We cannot forget it was the night before the 1st test, of which he was the next batsman inline had Taylor's wife gone into labour. Time to give him the flick I'm afraid. Way too many chances already.

Definitely our best side since Hadlee. Best bowling attack we have had I would say. 3 genuine good seamers, Corey Anderson is descent and I think Sodhi once he has settled down will be very good. Throw in our damn good batting line up and its a very solid team. ODI's will be where we excel but tests are getting better every game we play.

That last test series in Australia, NZ was on top and probably deserved better than 1-1.  Doug Bracewell was fantastic (any relation to John Bracewell/Brendan Bracewell?), has his form fallen away?  Or hanging out with Jesse too much?
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 06:41:51 AM »

That last test series in Australia, NZ was on top and probably deserved better than 1-1.  Doug Bracewell was fantastic (any relation to John Bracewell/Brendan Bracewell?), has his form fallen away?  Or hanging out with Jesse too much?

Brendan's Son!

Brendan is classic. Hard as nails and loves a good brew. Used to train at his home and he treated Dougie pretty harshly (Well yelled at him a lot). Funny funny guy.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 07:27:38 AM »

That last test series in Australia, NZ was on top and probably deserved better than 1-1.  Doug Bracewell was fantastic (any relation to John Bracewell/Brendan Bracewell?), has his form fallen away?  Or hanging out with Jesse too much?

1 all in a 2 test series.  Aust won the 1st test by 9 wickets and NZ won the 2nd test by 7 runs.  Can't see that NZ was on top and deserved better than 1 - 1.  They did thoroughly deserve the 2nd test win though.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2014, 01:25:52 PM »

Maybe, maybe not... Didn't England beat Australia 3-0 in the Ashes earlier on in the year?  That result did not reflect how close the series was.

My recollection on the 1-1 series was that NZ lost one session really badly in that first test but otherwise were in control for the series.  I may be wrong... shivers, I am wrong all the time... and my memory is pretty terrible at the best of times...
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2014, 11:10:45 AM »

Sadly Jesse did not get picked up by any team in the IPL auction as well  :-[
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2014, 11:12:58 AM »

Sadly Jesse did not get picked up by any team in the IPL auction as well  :-[

He'll be a very lucky man if he plays any type of top level cricket again.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2014, 08:03:08 AM »

Looks like nz have dropped him from the t20 WC team too
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2014, 08:24:39 AM »

Complete and utter waste of talent. Unbelievable player at times and hes just thrown it all away to get hammered.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 04:20:48 PM »

I think I heard that Jesse's dad dropped him off one day at a friends house and walked out on him, moved to Australia. He has had little to no support throughout his childhood and fell into bad habits from an early age.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2014, 10:27:48 AM »

I think I heard that Jesse's dad dropped him off one day at a friends house and walked out on him, moved to Australia. He has had little to no support throughout his childhood and fell into bad habits from an early age.


Yea true. But I guess its time for Jesse to move on from that episode. The guy surely is immensely talented.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2014, 06:30:13 PM »

Yea true. But I guess its time for Jesse to move on from that episode. The guy surely is immensely talented.
Move on from being abbandoned by a member of your family with no warning or explanation??
I'm sure that doesn't leave any deep psychological scars, and you can move on from that at will...
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2014, 06:34:20 PM »

Move on from being abbandoned by a member of your family with no warning or explanation??
I'm sure that doesn't leave any deep psychological scars, and you can mov on from that at will...

I maybe being harsh here and you never wish bad on anyone (ok, except the ECB, cook, Broad and Warner) but whilst some personal things are bad there is no excuse for behaving in such a way. Ok, so you got shafted when you were younger, or you had a 'bad childhood' or grew up in a crap area.. so what. You know what it's like in that crap situation so work dam hard to ensure you get out of it, your family get out of it and your kids never have to go through it. If you keep feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others then I don't think there can be much sympathy. This guy has got all the talent in the world, if he chooses to act like a complete tool then I'd rather the cricket family and anything associated to it just dropped him completely. After all, why on earth would you want someone like that around.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2014, 08:11:46 PM »

There comes a point when you have to take responsibility for you actions.
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2014, 08:28:00 PM »

There comes a point when you have to take responsibility for you actions.
There's no denying that you have to take responsibility, but equally I feel he isn't entirely to blame.
Maybe he should be offered some help instead of being unceremoniously dropped, mental health problems don't just go away over time, and it doesn't take a genius to see there are probably some psychological scars in this case.
Without getting into a long winded debate I think the bloke needs some  support from somewhere, just dropping him seems a weak way out, as if NZ are saying "he's not our problem any more" which to my mind shouldn't happen!
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Re: Jesse Ryder
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2014, 08:42:48 PM »

There's no denying that you have to take responsibility, but equally I feel he isn't entirely to blame.
Maybe he should be offered some help instead of being unceremoniously dropped, mental health problems don't just go away over time, and it doesn't take a genius to see there are probably some psychological scars in this case.
Without getting into a long winded debate I think the bloke needs some  support from somewhere, just dropping him seems a weak way out, as if NZ are saying "he's not our problem any more" which to my mind shouldn't happen!

He'll have private medical insurance that will cover treatment. NZ cricket (and so the NZ public) owe him nothing. He is nothing but a bloke who happens to be good at a sport. Not exactly a hero!
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