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[aman]

Just wondering is there any point to putting the machine on really high speeds? especially since it's designed just to work on either back foot or front foot at a time so form would be more important than reactions? wouldn't it be more better to have some one throw it from a short distance and cover both back foot and front foot?

[tim2000s]

What you are trying to do with the bowling machine is lock in muscle memory by repeating the same action over and over. In this respect, doing it at high speeds would aid you if you needed to face high speed bowling regularly.

[Cedrictoad]

I think it depends on what speed bowling you normally face on a Saturday.  There is no point smacking around the Bola on 60mph if you are going to be facing up to 80mph on a Saturday.

Train how you are going to play.  If you train at 60mph you are going to be seriously late on the hook at 80mph.

[procricket]

I think it depends on what speed bowling you normally face on a Saturday.  There is no point smacking around the Bola on 60mph if you are going to be facing up to 80mph on a Saturday.

Train how you are going to play.  If you train at 60mph you are going to be seriously late on the hook at 80mph.

Interesting one of the top Uk batting coaches Gary Palmer says something a tad different
Shot grooving should begin at a lower speed especially shorter pitched balls

Then for confirmation you might want it to go up but he says even with proffesionals he never goes above 80 mph on short pitched balls.

As Tim rightly says it a muscle memory technical aid if used correctly and for muscle memory speed is not in the factor but repatition is.

[Cedrictoad]

But surely practicing at 80mph would improve your ability to pick up length etc at that speed? 

I guess it depends on what you are doing with the Bola.  If you are just repeating the same shot then I concur with Pro.  If you have a mate at the end who is mixing it up on different lengths etc to simulate a game then I would think it would be better to practice at game speed.

[procricket]

Yep I agree with you mate I do sessions work in areas for some then have a open machine session where the pintol is let loss and my mate controls the thing and I face 6 balls at the same speed with varying length and lines. Shot grooving has it time and place but so does what I call game netting too

[mk_chappo]

I think the bowling machine is best left for shot grooving. I never find it much help in picking up length / getting feet moving as it is too easy to tell the length of the delivery before it is even bowled. (once you have faced it a lot you will pick up small differences in the alignment of the 'hole' on the machine and will know if it's short or a half volley before it comes out)
If I want to practice picking up length and getting the timing of my foot movements correct then I prefer to face either real bowling or someone using a sidearm (or even throw downs).

[aman]

the thought just came to me because a guy called Bob Meuleman down here use to coach Ghilchrist,Langer, S. Marsh ect. said he would never put the machine past 70mph.

[GarrettJ]

70 is like 80 mph due to the fact you can't read cues from the bowler and you are staring unto the black hole waiting for the clunk.

I can face 80 mph ok but 70 on machine seems a bit harder to me.

[ProCricketer1982]

I think the bowling machine is best left for shot grooving. I never find it much help in picking up length / getting feet moving as it is too easy to tell the length of the delivery before it is even bowled. (once you have faced it a lot you will pick up small differences in the alignment of the 'hole' on the machine and will know if it's short or a half volley before it comes out)
If I want to practice picking up length and getting the timing of my foot movements correct then I prefer to face either real bowling or someone using a sidearm (or even throw downs).

As someone who has self taught and mainly from using a machine I'd say it does help you learn to pick lines and lengths better than facing a real bowler. When grooving a shot your brain learns the length/line as well so even when it comes down at 80 say you do react correctly, it's surprising but it does work. Now,  I'm. It saying it doesn't ah  it's faults. It I get far less now from facing bowlers than I do a good session on the machine. Indoor game or machine season ?? No contest, machine session is far more productive.

Same with pro, train on 60/65 but do the odd session at high speed just so you have seen it. You will react anyway so it's just for your own comfort really. I find 60 far harder than 75 for instance, why, because one speed you have to hit then ball and the other just time it. Exactly the same as I find in real games, 'quicks' are far easier than your slow/medium plod who just drop it on a spot etc

[GarrettJ]

problem with nets, are 99.99% of the ones ive been to is that most of the bowlers dont bowl 6 consecutive balls so you get a real mixed bag which is nothing like a match.

[Buzz]

Different people prefer different training methods.

I like throw downs and the bowling machine, others prefer nets... no two people are alike.

Anything faster than 75 on a bowling machine is frequently a waste of time, in my view.

[jamesisapayne]

70 is like 80 mph due to the fact you can't read cues from the bowler and you are staring unto the black hole waiting for the clunk.

I can face 80 mph ok but 70 on machine seems a bit harder to me.

Totally agree John, I find  70 about my limit on the machine - there are no visual clues and your reaction time is slower.

It is great for grooving shots though.

[arsenal123]

Complete waste of time at 70+.

Think about it when you bat, you may have a trigger just as the bowler is about to release.  Even if you don't you might subconsiously do something to prepare for the ball.

With a bowling machine you completely take that out of the equation and lose fractions of seconds.  As we know, facing 80mph, fractions of seconds are huge.

[revboy]

I have a trigger and use it on the bowling machine.

Playing 80 on the bowling machine can be useful. I suppose it depends on what you are working on



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