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[ProCricketer1982]

Its a difficult balance in a team game

Cricket is as much individual as it is team though. England want boring yes men and we all know that won't create a top team. Whose next to get the boot? Broad (he's a walking ego), stokes (obviously a bit of a trouble maker having been sent home etc)

[ppccopener]

You make a good point and your right, it is an individual game within a team game
Are you also saying thou that regardless of how someone behaves who is being paid by the ecb you ignore everything and just carry on?

[Sam]

Both of which have controlled themselves fairly well in their international careers recently clearly unlike KP.

[ProCricketer1982]

You make a good point and your right, it is an individual game within a team game
Are you also saying thou that regardless of how someone behaves who is being paid by the ecb you ignore everything and just carry on?

Depends what they do. IF they just tell x or y that they aren't good enough etc then why not? Everyone is allowed an opinion after all, if someone on my team keeps getting a game but really isn't good enough I'd hope people have the balls to say so rather than just two the party line. Can't use text gate etc as they'd forgiven that ( although I'd have kicked him out then tbh)

[Stuey]

Some interesting in sights by Swan on the radio over the last few days. After telling the management he was unable to bowl in the ashes (after the 2nd test!)   he offered to stay on the tour for the final 2 tests and help Borthwick but was told to go home by Flower . Also KP wouldn't talk to anyone in the field, but would only whistle! I'm sure there are 2 sides to both stories, but whole tour sounds like a shambles, no wonder we got thrashed.

[Kieron_BT]

Could the return yet be getting closer?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31963305

[WalkingWicket37]

Yawn!

If he scores 5,000 county runs in April he'll be considered for selection. The selectors will then decide someone else will do the job better for England. He's been sacked and he won't be coming back again, he's doing nothing more than keeping his name in the news.

If I'm wrong and he plays again fair play to the ECB for admitting they cocked up, but I won't be holding my breath...

[ProCricketer1982]

Yawn!

If he scores 5,000 county runs in April he'll be considered for selection. The selectors will then decide someone else will do the job better for England. He's been sacked and he won't be coming back again, he's doing nothing more than keeping his name in the news.

If I'm wrong and he plays again fair play to the ECB for admitting they cocked up, but I won't be holding my breath...

I think it's worse that we have people quite happy to let the ECB off the hook for what they have done

Given the state of English cricket I think EVERY SINGLE player is playing for their contracts. WI are there for teh taking, they are crap. If you don't fill your boots then if KP, Compton, Carbs, Vince, Taylor score big runs in LVCC then they should be given a go. Closed shop needs to be ended.

[frooper11]

Yes it was a massive PR guff by the ECB, who played their part in feeding his ego and not just treating him like any player, but why can't he toddle off quietly. The one common denominator in all the published fall outs is the man himself.

[ProCricketer1982]

Yes it was a massive PR guff by the ECB, who played their part in feeding his ego and not just treating him like any player, but why can't he toddle off quietly. The one common denominator in all the published fall outs is the man himself.

why can't the men employed by the ECB to be accountable for decision making take responsibility for their actions and resign (resign so they don't get gardening leave, pay offs etc) ??

[Number4]

Yes it was a massive PR guff by the ECB, who played their part in feeding his ego and not just treating him like any player, but why can't he toddle off quietly. The one common denominator in all the published fall outs is the man himself.

Why should he go away quietly. He is the best player England has had in quite a while. A match winner with X factor

[Northern monkey]

Match winner,X factor
Plus one of the few England batsmen, other teams worried about
That's far from the case with the current crop

[InternalTraining]

This situation has tuned into a case of "he said, she said" or rather "he said, he said". Team England are much better off with a " "rebuild" in sight for the 2019 CWC rather aiming for any short term gains by involving KP in the squad.

In 4 years, he will be old enough to retire. He is not winning England a CWC.

[Akewstick]

I think it was Sangakkara I heard say something about Malinga, that nobody in the Sri Lanka dressing room likes him, he was always going off on his own and it was a full time job stopping a fight breaking out every time he was in the dressing room, but they did it, and it never put his place at risk, because who wouldn't have Malinga in their team? End of.

I used to always think about KP, the people who say he's arrogant "I'm not saying he's not good, but he's a show off, he's self-centred". He's Kevin Pietersen! If Mohammed Ali or Usain Bolt were British we'd do nothing but slag them off because as well as being the best in the world we need them to drink pints like Freddie and hate the aussies like Botham. I think it's a uniquely British thing that we want good players and once every 30 year when we get one we hate him because he's better than us and he knows it, it still makes me angry.

If he scores 5,000 county runs in April he'll be considered for selection. The selectors will then decide someone else will do the job better for England. He's been sacked and he won't be coming back again, he's doing nothing more than keeping his name in the news.

I was KPs biggest fan and comments like this used to totally miss the point in my mind, that he wasn't dropped because of cricket, he was dropped because of emtions and he should never have been. However, this changed after he was dropped from the ashes and he started insulting Prior on twitter, and sending sarcastic messages to the ECB the day his contract expired. I'd always believed, as much as he was a knob, when he said "I just want to play test cricket for England" he meant it. But when you're supposedly trying to work your way back and you're abusing the management on twitter? I finally realised he cares more about his image than the cricket he plays and I've given up on him.

That comment from WalkingWicket37 just made me think - if they're going to let him in, they'll want a couple of championship centuries from him, and is he going to put that in? I can't see it, so he must not really want it. So I don't care anymore, it was good while it lasted.

[ProCricketer1982]

This situation has tuned into a case of "he said, she said" or rather "he said, he said". Team England are much better off with a " "rebuild" in sight for the 2019 CWC rather aiming for any short term gains by involving KP in the squad.

In 4 years, he will be old enough to retire. He is not winning England a CWC.

if you are only thinking of the ODI world cup.. how old is KP? How old is Dilshan? Mahela? Sangakkara?  Pretty sure KP will be their age and Sanga just score 4 tons in a row!