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[FvanN]

Hi all

Just wanted to know if anybody else has found th size of Asian bats to be very much bigger than UK made?

Today I finally got round to performing the old bat comparison test between my CA8000 which I picked up last year and my Salix wasp which arrived yesterday and the size difference is staggering. Now I know that the moisture content would be a factor but I expected them to be around the same size condidering the difference in weight. 

CA weighs in at 2.8 bang on.
Salix weighs in at 2.10.6.

When holding the two bats edge to edge the CA is about 4-5mm thinker across the whole blade with a higher spine and alot less concaving.

Anybody else found this in their collection of bats?

[smilley792]

What I have found is,


My Malik and my ca, although stated as sh are narrower and shorter than my other sh.

Also on my cheap as moisture meter, the ca and malik are ridicolously dry.
There content comes up as 1% moisture! yet all my other bats are 6%(no idea what a bat is meant to be. Or the accuracy of my gauge)

Which adds up to why they are a tad larger than other bats of the same weight,


But to add, my ton, matches my other English made bats, both in width and height, and moisture content.

I only own 3 asain bats, so not a great comparison.

[FvanN]

Both bats are the same height apart from the droopy shoulders of the wasp and both are the same width.

[kal_m]

It's quite amazing how CA manages to have 40 mm edges on 2.7/2.8 bats. I have an RNS Unik weighing 2.10/2.11 and it has only 33-34 mm edges and my SS Ton Gladiator weighing 2.14 (with 2 grips) has only 37 mm edges. But boy do they ping...absolutely amazing.

[Kippa2209]

I have a KG from India which is notably bigger than my other UK bats. I think it comes down to how long they dry them out for. You can feel in performance the difference between a hard middle of an Indian bat compared to the soft ping of a UK bat.

What annoys me is the round handle they use on Indian ones. Feel like I lose so much control compared to the usual oval handles!

[Chad]

It's mostly due to the moisture content, but also, that CA 8000 was really something special. It's much hotter in Pakistan, and I believe they dry the clefts out on the roofs, so the sun obviously bakes them.

[kal_m]

It's mostly due to the moisture content, but also, that CA 8000 was really something special. It's much hotter in Pakistan, and I believe they dry the clefts out on the roofs, so the sun obviously bakes them.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the advantage of drying out the moisture, other than reduced weight and thick edges?

[FvanN]

It's mostly due to the moisture content, but also, that CA 8000 was really something special. It's much hotter in Pakistan, and I believe they dry the clefts out on the roofs, so the sun obviously bakes them.

Love the CA..

[Chad]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the advantage of drying out the moisture, other than reduced weight and thick edges?

The raw cleft itself is actually pretty heavy, due to the moisture content, so bat makers normally let clefts dry out to about 10% moisture content in a kiln, then use them for making bats. Since it is hotter in the sub-continent countries, the clefts dry pretty quickly outside on the roofs. But yeah, drier bats give you a bigger bat for the weight, but generally speaking, they are more prone to cracking and breaking.

[Chad]

Love the CA..

I'll bet it makes a lovely crack when you hit the ball now! How does it compare to the Salix Wasp? I really regret selling that CA now, it was something pretty special!

[uknsaunders]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the advantage of drying out the moisture, other than reduced weight and thick edges?

That's it, you get more bat for a given weight. It might go better but don't quote me on that. However, it's more likely to crack and snap in half. From what's been said previously on this forum most batmakers in the UK produce bats with 10-12% moisture content, possibly less. I think some of the Asian brands push it down to 8% (again I think I read that on this forum or somebody got their moisture meter out).

[kal_m]

And if a bat is made in India,would there be any difference in how the willow plays when used in UK vs when used in India?

[uknsaunders]

And if a bat is made in India,would there be any difference in how the willow plays when used in UK vs when used in India?

that's one for Dave I think! I doubt it. Bat's moisture content goes up and down all the time. Not by much but leave your bat in the car during winter and it may add an oz in weight. Playing with it during a heatwave and it may lose a bit of moisture. I guess if you play in India the bat would need oiling more regularly as it should be hotter than the UK.

[Chad]

And if a bat is made in India,would there be any difference in how the willow plays when used in UK vs when used in India?

Not really, a good bat is a good bat, regardless of wherever in the world you use it. The moisture content may rise and fall, but if you take care of your bats and store them properly, this minimises the fluctuations.

[kal_m]

Not really, a good bat is a good bat, regardless of wherever in the world you use it. The moisture content may rise and fall, but if you take care of your bats and store them properly, this minimises the fluctuations.

The reason I asked is that I bought a couple of Indian made bats (Reebok and SS Gladiator) from UK and I absolutely love them. They have the best ping I have seen in quite a while.