Topic: Screaming cat professional vs Fisher custom vs Laver and Wood reserve vsAffinity (Read 19070 times)

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:04:30 PM »

Quote from: Rob580 on March 20, 2014, 12:54:33 PM

I was just going on what i'd heard from them and the feedback from my poorly palms! Your reasoning makes perfect sense Mr Vitas, and i'm sure works great.

But it won't annoy my girlfriend and neighbours in the same precise manner knocking one in with a mallet does now will it?

Thats the nature of willow, some bats give terrible vibration feedback, some don't. Thankfully most can be patiently teased into performing with much less vibration through knocking in, or bowling machine use, or of course just playing with the bat in normal matches/nets.

Thankfully it is a noise my other half doesn't have to deal with anyone, before we started this venture I had bats all round the house, at various stages of knocking in.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:16:46 PM »

Quote from: Number4 on March 20, 2014, 11:16:44 AM

I think it comes down to the type of balls used... I don't like the "bola" type balls as I believe it does kill a bat. Bit like using cheap and nasty cricket balls... Not good for bats are they

I half agree
One of the Mong bowlers used a sports direct ball (nails I didn't know until it was too late) which resulted in my new Six6 (that I'd lovingly knocked in) breaking and requiring dowels in the edge (it's now stronger than new and I did a quality job, if I do say so myself

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Never had a problem using a new bat and Bola balls though, aids the knocking in process from my experience.

shoab68 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:23:12 PM »

I have L&W signature and Scat. It would sound absurd but my recent purchase TON Reserve is better than these.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2014, 04:35:23 PM »

I've had a laver, which after a bit of a weight reduction, I loved, until it was killed by a cheap ball
I've now got an affinity spectre, which is hitting the ball nicely,and the pick up is spot on
My sons Affinity carbine is very very nice, on a different level to his m&H bats

But,,, I too would like to try one of Aldreds stunning looking bats, ,and I'm currently saving up for one of Asads Uzi pro bats,which both look and pick up amazing, ,and trust me, if you bounce a ball on one these bats,you too will want one!

There's some very very nice bats out there,,,,B3,Ton,Salix,Red Ink,Rob Pack have all caught my eye lately with some stunning offerings

skip1973 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:56:05 AM »

It's not the bola or jugs balls so much as the repetition that's the problem. If you bat 20 overs, face half the balls, hit 80% of them you're looking at 40-50 balls and unless you're a freak you would be lucky to middle maybe half. On a bowling machine you middle a large % of them because you know what's coming. I have seen many nice bats ruined by overuse on a machine.

smilley792 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:04:28 AM »

You've got to love the internet,

We are on a forum where bats get sold before evening being used. Yet now everyone believes that practice kills bats, and they've all witnessed it.

Sheep everywhere.

Rob580 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:17:26 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on March 21, 2014, 10:04:28 AM

You've got to love the internet,

We are on a forum where bats get sold before evening being used. Yet now everyone believes that practice kills bats, and they've all witnessed it.

Sheep everywhere.

If people have had a bad experience with a bowling machine or something else, it doesn't make them sheep! If it's through hearsay then yes, it would, but if there's been an experience then it means they've learnt from their experiences.

Willow being a natural product will lead to some irregularities and some outliers from normal use. I personally haven't used a good bat ogainst a bowling machine as i've been informed by knowlegable people (in the real, non internet forum, world) but other people have, and have had good results. I trust Warsop. Does that make me a sheep? I doubt it.

Right thats my moment over.

Back to the point. I would go for an Affinity if i were you my man, they're a fair bit of cash, but all the ones i've seen and had a swing of are b-e-a-utiful pieces of craftmanship.

Nmcgee · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:17:31 AM »

I've been into Fisher's shop as I had him do a refurb for me. My customer service experience was not what I was hoping for but I can say he had some seriously excellent bats in stock that I was looking at.

I've got a Laver that I am playing in (fully knocked and now in the nets). It's a bit "tinny" at the moment, in my opinion, but I'm giving it time to open up and am in no rush.

.......and I've ordered a bat from Paul Aldred!

Buzz · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:28:44 AM »

Quote from: skip1973 on March 21, 2014, 09:56:05 AM

It's not the bola or jugs balls so much as the repetition that's the problem. If you bat 20 overs, face half the balls, hit 80% of them you're looking at 40-50 balls and unless you're a freak you would be lucky to middle maybe half. On a bowling machine you middle a large % of them because you know what's coming. I have seen many nice bats ruined by overuse on a machine.

This is utter rubbish!!!!
seriously - how can you think this?

tim2000s · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:49:33 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on March 21, 2014, 10:04:28 AM

You've got to love the internet,

We are on a forum where bats get sold before evening being used. Yet now everyone believes that practice kills bats, and they've all witnessed it.

Sheep everywhere.

Baaaaa....

In all seriousness, what a load of rubbish about machines ruining bats. Couldn't agree more. Most of the people on here who have had bats for longer than two minutes would agree that a bat reaches its peak at somewhere between 500 and 1000 runs and maintains this for another 1000-2000 or so. That's a huge number of balls faced.

If this were true, the bats that Sachin and MC have done all they can to keep hold of would have been dead a long time ago, and even facing cricket balls, I guarantee they middle a hell of a lot more than most of us on here...!

lazza32 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:03:11 AM »

Even the pro's use there bats against machines. You can tell by the green marks that are left behind.

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skip1973 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:05:19 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on March 21, 2014, 10:28:44 AM

This is utter rubbish!!!!
seriously - how can you think this?

Experience, which part do you find hard to understand?

Buzz · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:16:38 AM »

Quote from: skip1973 on March 21, 2014, 11:05:19 AM

Experience, which part do you find hard to understand?

When you say ruined how? I find it very hard to believe that a bowling machine ball will harm a bat in any way.

The fact that I have been using bowling machine as my main source of batting practice for the last 5 years and have yet to see a single one of my or any of the guys I net with have any issues with the bowling machine ruining bats!!

petehosk · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:21:14 AM »

At one point, I was netting at 1-2 hours and at least twice a week last year! And none of the bats I was using lost performance!!

IF (and it's a big if) bola balls make performance worse on a bat, it is extremely marginal as I have never noticed this! And it is counteracted by the improved timing and stroke play I would get from all the practice!

MD2812 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:22:30 AM »

Quote from: skip1973 on March 21, 2014, 09:56:05 AM

It's not the bola or jugs balls so much as the repetition that's the problem. If you bat 20 overs, face half the balls, hit 80% of them you're looking at 40-50 balls and unless you're a freak you would be lucky to middle maybe half. On a bowling machine you middle a large % of them because you know what's coming. I have seen many nice bats ruined by overuse on a machine.

So what you're saying is that using the middle of the bat ruins it?

Or should we just practise edging it in the nets?

If this is a concern why not buy a �30 MSR net bat with similar weight pickup and middle to your match bat.

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