Topic: What is a 'lam' (Read 6278 times)

cricketfan6969 · « **on:** March 25, 2014, 08:57:36 AM »

I'm always seeing the word 'lam' when people are talking about there bats, e.g I got a new BB lam. What does it mean? and what are they?

Rhys

Red Ink Cricket · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2014, 09:04:49 AM »

a laminate of 2 pieces of willow. normally an ugly piece and a pretty new face on it. doesnt conform to law 6/ Grade A bats so illegal to use in first class etc as potentially additional power from the glueing or double pressing depending on how they do it. think its frowned upon in certain leagues but nothing against using them in lower club cricket.

smilley792 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2014, 09:32:30 AM »

There certain types of lam. Although all are illegal as red ink says.

I have both. A rk laminate, with a thin veneer on the face designed to aid performance.

And

A mb Malik which has a extra piece stuck to the rear to give it a bibber spine/edges.

The first has ridicolous performance and ping, even in the toe,
The mb plays like every other bat I have,

iand123 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2014, 09:37:55 AM »

I'll get my coat

SaadIjaz · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2014, 10:04:18 AM »

Since we are on the topic of this discussion, can I ask anyone with experience of it, are these type of bats more prone to breakage as eventually with a hard ball impacting a bat 1000s of times will eventually unsettle or weaken the glue/joint?

Additionally, I�ve seen pics of Lams on here and they seem like absolute monsters, assuming pickup and weight of these bats are heavy too? Or do they also come in lighter 2.9,8,7 ranges too?

MD2812 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2014, 10:08:57 AM »

Quote from: iand123 on March 25, 2014, 09:37:55 AM

I'll get my coat

You'll have to wait a few more years for the wool to make that coat!

smilley792 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2014, 10:12:45 AM »

They are available in smaller weights, but I use monsters anyway, so yeahs mine is a big laminate

cricketfan6969 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2014, 10:14:28 AM »

Cheers lads for clearing that up for me

iand123 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2014, 12:06:40 PM »

To be clear, a laminate cannot be used in 1st class cricket but can in league cricket (or friendly cricket) that us mere mortals played? If that is the case it certainly clears soemthing up for me. I always thought people who bought laminates were wasting their money as i thought they couldnt be used in any type of cricket

shoab68 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:08:21 PM »

As explained by few other members there are two types of LAMS

1- Size or edges increased Lam
2- Performance enhanced Lams

I think there is no point in using size increased lam but performance enhanced lam is definitely worth if made by some expert, you can definitely hit ball additional few metres using a good performance lam. Point to be noted is you can use them only in lower club league cricket or friendly matches as these are banned by ICC.

Johnny · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:12:12 PM »

I thought ALL lams were illegal and do not fit into any of class a, b or c of the laws

Buzz · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:15:24 PM »

Quote from: Johnny on March 25, 2014, 03:12:12 PM

I thought ALL lams were illegal and do not fit into any of class a, b or c of the laws

this.

you can only use a bat made from one piece of wood (plus handle) unless the extra piece is added to repair the bat - which is the loophole lamitoes and tas use.

so you cannot use a lamimate bat in any form of match

tim2000s · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:20:47 PM »

Buzz and Johnny are spot on.

The point is not whether they are illegal. They are in all forms of the game.

The point is whether a) anyone notices; b) anyone who does, cares; c) whether the umpires actually know the rules enough to do anything about it and d) whether a laminate gives a performance advantage to your average cricketer who can't time the ball like a pro.

MD2812 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:21:42 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on March 25, 2014, 03:15:24 PM

this.

you can only use a bat made from one piece of wood (plus handle) unless the extra piece is added to repair the bat - which is the loophole lamitoes and tas use.

so you cannot use a lamimate bat in any form of match

Could a delaminated bat be repaired as a Lam and therefore be legal?

tim2000s · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2014, 03:29:18 PM »

Quote from: MD2812 on March 25, 2014, 03:21:42 PM

Could a delaminated bat be repaired as a Lam and therefore be legal?

No, as the material used on the face of the bat to repair it must not be rigid. either at the time of application or subsequently. Solid material cannot be inserted to repair surface damage, which is what delamination classes as.

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