Topic: Who makes Woodstock Bats?!? (Read 11098 times)

wayward_hayward · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2014, 06:22:27 AM »

Quote from: praguetaz on April 04, 2014, 06:46:42 PM

Thanks Wayward....

Just a couple of games and winter nets.... so just about knocked in ready for me to use after a clean-up

Let me know how it goes and if you decide to sell it

Jaffa · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2014, 06:47:33 AM »

My understanding with the most of the boutique bat makers is that while they may or may not physically insert the handles or press the bats, it is done to their spec.

To make enough bats to make a bat business viable, it just isn�t possible to do it any other way I believe. I think Matt from H4L admits as much in a IJC video. *Edit - I stand corrected (See below). Thank you for pointing this out.

And they are called pod-shavers so nobody is misleading anyone. We are all happy with the personal service and the end product aren�t we?

simonmay5 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:01:33 AM »

I am shaw matt does make them from scratch I might be wrong

hell4leather cricket · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:13:12 AM »

I do make from scratch but I have a profiling machine that shapes the back ,I see it as progress, which saves hours of work and I find helps my business in that I can produce more bats ,when you make them all yourself any modern machine that can help push your business , why not? No bat maker truly handmakes every bat ? If they do then every cut would be done by hand and no machines to cut the splice ,press the blade , drum sand ?

procricket · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:19:29 AM »

Totally agree with your post have you found better consistnacy in shapes as well???

Ps I had a go with one of your bats 2 weeks ago what a delight it was

praguetaz · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:34:18 AM »

Bat making has obviously moved on from the days of receiving the wood to the finished end product in-house.

I'm sure the use of technology has enabled companies to produce more bats more quickly especially when it comes to finishing.

It would be interesting to compare the high tech B3 set-up with say one of the more traditional pod shavers but regardless we all trust what they are doing and bow to their expertise knowledge.

Regardless, thanks to all those who contributed their thoughts and ideas regarding Woodstock and the top Willostix. One makes perfect sense in terms of history and the other was a very pleasant surprise... if true.. I won't know until I get hold of the bat next week and then I'm not sure I would recognise their work anyway.

procricket · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:37:23 AM »

My theory on bats is no bats get sent out intentionally bad and machine or hand lots of love and care has gone into it.

Science and experiance can merge bit like tradition and technology.

hell4leather cricket · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:46:00 AM »

I find it more consistent yes, my whole set up is more organised and smoother. As a business why take 3 hrs on a bat when you can take 30 mins? Or 1 min to shape the back? Its taken a certain amount of investment but I'm getting to position I want to be in set up wise for larger volume.

Red Ink Cricket · « **Reply #23 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:53:11 AM »

I think there's a difference between taking a little bit of the hard work out of it and getting preshaped bats to just finish the handle and sand. The profiling machine still leaves a lot of work to do I guess. Not a fully shaped bat that comes out of it. Machines are great to help with accuracy of cuts and makes things quicker and more accurate but there's still a hell of a lot of work that goes into a bat. I also think it comes down to what you say you do. Honesty is a big factor here. I hate it when someone claims to do something which they blatantly don't do just to make themselves look better. Does stickering a bat up make it any better or worse to hand making it yourself? Probably not depending on the bat but if all youre doing is sanding and minor shaping of handles yet claiming you press, fit handles etc then yes it does matter. The product may be the same at the end of it but it's misleading

procricket · « **Reply #24 on:** April 05, 2014, 07:53:39 AM »

I agree wholehearted the science behind the project here at b3 is amazing and it why we encourage people to come down.

There are of course confidential parts but how streaky matches the clefts to profile weight is something to behold it like a opus and it is a ever evolving process.

There many things I don't understand but what I do know is that some people think it pressing a button and hey presto they forget the 2 podshaver who lovingly finish and press and machine the clefts first.

Bats are changing because more technology and reserch is going into them.

Your right bats don't come off a Cnc or copy laith finished skill is still required and that's where the tradition takes over.

procricket · « **Reply #25 on:** April 05, 2014, 08:04:09 AM »

I have the upmost respect for you all machinist to pod shavers to sticker up operations.

Time money and effort and passion has gone into it fair play I'm now seeing the total effort going into things and you have to love it to be in it.

I salute you all

trypewriter · « **Reply #26 on:** April 05, 2014, 08:22:26 AM »

Quote from: procricket on April 05, 2014, 07:53:39 AM

how streaky matches the clefts to profile weight is something to behold it like a opus and it is a ever evolving process.

This is something that I was totally ignorant of until someone better informed told me - this is the sort of stuff that folk need to know IMO

GarrettJ · « **Reply #27 on:** April 05, 2014, 08:59:43 AM »

It's a very complicated excel spreadsheet isnt it?

procricket · « **Reply #28 on:** April 05, 2014, 09:26:04 AM »

Bit more than that mate times have moved once again but lot more goes into it than a sheet plus pressing techniques have been galvanised.

Alvaro · « **Reply #29 on:** April 05, 2014, 10:04:34 AM »

Quote from: hell4leather cricket on April 05, 2014, 07:13:12 AM

I do make from scratch but I have a profiling machine that shapes the back ,I see it as progress, which saves hours of work and I find helps my business in that I can produce more bats ,when you make them all yourself any modern machine that can help push your business , why not? No bat maker truly handmakes every bat ? If they do then every cut would be done by hand and no machines to cut the splice ,press the blade , drum sand ?

Really interesting. Totally agree.

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