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[GarrettJ]

some comments on the documentary  ....

one lady claims to have lost a stone in 2 weeks which i find hard to beleive

http://documentaryheaven.com/eat-fast-and-live-longer/

[tim2000s]

What you should eat and when has a wide variety of suggestions.

There are some that say don't eat at all after six pm, some that say fast until lunch time (I've seen this one work) and others that say you must have breakfast to lose weight. There is no clear answer on these. Different studies have produced evidence for different things.

As long as you manage the calories you are consuming, the reality is that you should stabilise and lose weight, as long as the number is lower than what you use. If you stuff your face, you won't lose weight. It's as simple as that.

[tim2000s]

The arguement for eating after a late workout is viable but that is more for the people who are looking to build muscle and get ripped, for the everyday people who just want to trim down i'd say not eating after 6pm is a wise move. Having a big plate of spaghetti bolognese with 800 calories at 7.30pm isnt going to do you any good if you want to lose weight.

This really does depend on what and how you are doing it. It's still a fasting technique, simply that your fast is from 6pm till breakfast, whereas other approaches I've seen are from Post evening meal to lunch time.

Regardless, they both appear to work.

[Gingerbusiness]

Because if this thread, I weighed myself this morning - 208.2lbs!

I am 6ft 2ins (187cm) but I didn't realise I had gone over 200lbs.

I will be joining fatty trail!

[The Palmist]

Dust. Anybody? No? Dust.

say no more

[The Palmist]

Ok on a serious note, this is coming from someone who has really slow metabolism and puts on weight really quick. I lost 3 stone in 7 months, here is what I can remember from my routine. Everyone is different and you have to listen to your body.
And I don't believe in treat days, so no treats till you have lost 3 stone.

I would hit the gym first thing in morning before work for 5 days and afternoon over weekdays. Only 1 break day every two weeks.

Of the 7 morning sessions [breakfast, just tea and couple of toasts]

2 x 1 hour+ running
2 x other cardio like cross trainer, bike
3 x heavy weights sessions

after gym, small sandwich + some whole grains

Lunch time 1 hr brisk walk and only 2 bananas

Evening - I will have my dinner around 6pm and then another 40 - 50 mins walk. Only days I missed my walk was when I had some  cricket training and karate lessons planned in evening.

No treats, no biscuits at work, no alcohol, no cakes.

Some may say that I ate dangerously less but I could see me gaining strength and getting trimmer, also my stamina was on the up too.

Within 7 months I had lost 2.5 stones and within 9, I was down 3 stones. At this stage finding clothes which fit me was a struggle, I even bought T Shirts for 11 year olds.


Downsides: missed out on social outings and hanging out with friends, a very upset Mrs as I had virtually no time for her or anything really.

My whole life revolved around training and getting fitter.

You have to take a no nonsense approach if you want to see quick gains.

Since then I have put on some weight but still a lot less than what I used to be.

[Gingerbusiness]

Ok on a serious note, this is coming from someone who has really slow metabolism and puts on weight really quick. I lost 3 stone in 7 months, here is what I can remember from my routine. Everyone is different and you have to listen to your body.
And I don't believe in treat days, so no treats till you have lost 3 stone.

I would hit the gym first thing in morning before work for 5 days and afternoon over weekdays. Only 1 break day every two weeks.

Of the 7 morning sessions [breakfast, just tea and couple of toasts]

2 x 1 hour+ running
2 x other cardio like cross trainer, bike
3 x heavy weights sessions

after gym, small sandwich + some whole grains

Lunch time 1 hr brisk walk and only 2 bananas

Evening - I will have my dinner around 6pm and then another 40 - 50 mins walk. Only days I missed my walk was when I had some  cricket training and karate lessons planned in evening.

No treats, no biscuits at work, no alcohol, no cakes.

Some may say that I ate dangerously less but I could see me gaining strength and getting trimmer, also my stamina was on the up too.

Within 7 months I had lost 2.5 stones and within 9, I was down 3 stones. At this stage finding clothes which fit me was a struggle, I even bought T Shirts for 11 year olds.


Downsides: missed out on social outings and hanging out with friends, a very upset Mrs as I had virtually no time for her or anything really.

My whole life revolved around training and getting fitter.

You have to take a no nonsense approach if you want to see quick gains.

Since then I have put on some weight but still a lot less than what I used to be.

That is extreme though. I was a bit like this. Got into bodybuilding when I was a bit younger. I WISH I had not put training in front of social stuff for that 2/3 years. At the end of the day, its nice to look like the models in magazines etc but being happy mentally is just important. If you can find a happy medium between the two, as Charlie Sheen would say, you are winning!

The Palmist: TBH mate, if you are wearing shirts for 11 year olds, and you are not 11, you have gone too far. The lengths people go to not to pay VAT on their clothes...

[Bruce]

There's a channel on YouTube called Twin Muscle Workout and they Go through all the healthy food groups it's recommended to consume to keep lean also they show you how to make healthy smoothies which can be a bit of a faff on but can help you get some of your five a day!

Time to make him self some gainzzzz
All kinds of gainzzzz
All Kinds

[The Palmist]

Absolutely Ginger. ..at my lowest I was just under 60 kgs to the horror of my mom. Thing is slow and steady never worked for me so I had to go all out. Hard to get the same motivation back though. I have always been an all or nothing kind if person anyways. These are all great tips and the key is going to be motivation....

[tim2000s]

We've been discussing fasting in a variety of ways. Here's the guy who made it his mantra. I've tried this, and found it works well.

http://www.leangains.com/2008/06/sure-fire-fat-loss.html

What I'd say is that fasting in the early part of the day is easier as you can be far more sociable with it...!

[MD2812]

The 5:2 diet has been popular and successfull in our office.

5 days a week you eat normally, 2 days you restrict yourself to 600 calories.

[WalkingWicket37]

The 5:2 diet has been popular and successfull in our office.

5 days a week you eat normally, 2 days you restrict yourself to 600 calories.

Had this suggested by a few people.
My modified 7:0 plan didn't have any positive effect though 

[Stuey]

Weight loss is 90% diet, the old addage your can't out train a doughnut is true. Eat less calories than your burn and you will lose weight. However not all calories are the same and different foods will have different impacts on your wellbeing. I assume you are still playing cricket, which mean zero carbs and fat is a no no (and is just ridiculous) you'll have no energy! I could go into Ketosis and glycosis, but 'Marks Daily Apple' sums it up much better. Also don't go mad with the excercise, make the weight loss a long term goal. Mark has some good bodyweight excercise plans to get you going. I followed this and still do, to a point. My carb intake is probably more than 150g per day (mostly potaotes and rice), with that and moderate fat, some excercise I'm doing fine. Also stress can make you gain fat, ensure you get some good sleep otherwise your cortisol levels with play havoc with your weight loss. Good luck and don't go hell for leather with it, take your time, plan and see how you go.  Ah also if you're not getting 8 hours good sleep don't do intermittent fasting as your body will be stressed enough from the lack of sleep!

[Bruce]

Try and build it around your cricket perhaps. When having a net, and you hit a shot that is of valuable runs, sprint them.
There's 2 types of cardio for fat loss, LISS and HIIT- the first being low intensity steady state, good for fasted work outs as it's not too taxing on your muscles. The second is HIIT which is great if you are short on time. For me HIIT is done on the rugby field, try line to the opposition 22 then walk back 8-15 times.
Liss needs to be a last walk, for at least 40 minutes.

[Pritz]

My story

I was 16.3stone (40% body fat) and finally realised how fat I'd got... I'm currently (after a year and 2months of dieting and gyming) at 13stone (15% body fat)... My lowest weight to date was 11.3 stone (10% body fat) which i achieved in 6months..

Three things you need are dedication commitment and time. Once your in a good routine, thing get easy and ull realise the fat will drop of you. Aswell as this youll feel alot better (mentally and look alot better (physically).. Just give it time and ull see the results

What you want to do is burn fat in the form of weight.. You can also loose weight by loosing muscle mass (which you dont want to do, i made that mistake)

This is what worked for me...

Firstly, diet was the most important element of me loosing weight... Dont by any means stop eating, this doesnt work..

My diet whilst i was cutting (loosing weight)

7.00am - 1 glass of porridge (mixed with skimmed milk) with a glass of blueberries and strawberries
10.00am - a fist sized portion of brown rice, broccoli and chicken
1.00pm - a fist sized portion of brown rice, broccoli and chicken
4.00pm - a fist sized portion of brown rice, broccoli and chicken
Workout - Diet Whey Protein Shake
8.00pm - Veg and chicken

You dont have to eat brown rice, broccoli and chicken, just substitute the carb source or protein source.. (bulgar wheat, sweet potatoes, wholemeal pasta, wholemeal bread... Chicken, turkey, beef, fish) - If you got time look up something called macros, this will break down the amount of carbs, protein and fats you need in order to loose that fat!

All you have to do is keep it simple.. go easy on dairy products and dont have any sugars... Sugars make you fat, fat doesnt make you fat... so ignore all the 'fat free' and '0% fat' gimics just watch you sugar intake.. Stay of fried food or fast food and no chocs, biscuits and crisps etc.. U can substiture snacks with fruit or nuts (homemade popcorn is one of my fav snacks)

Keep it wholemeal foods and fresh food..

In terms of training... Try a style called HIIT (high intensity interval training)... Find yourself a hill, sprint up and walk down... repeat until you cant do nomore.. This is the best form of burning fat.. If you really want to loose the fat try fasted cardio... wake up first thing in the morning and go excercise..

If you ask me 75% is down to diet and 25% down to training...

Hope this helps!