Topic: Scuff Sheet impact on performance (Read 2166 times)

Silver Bullet · « **on:** May 02, 2014, 01:15:09 AM »

So I have never used a scuff sheet and now torn over if I should use it for my first custom bat. I haven't seen too many pros use it and I can't seem to understand how it wouldn't impact performance negatively. It doesn't make sense to me to spend 500 bucks on a bat and spend hours knocking it in and then cover it with a thick sheet that stays between the bat and ball.

What do people here think ? Does it impact performance ?

Do any top level pros use one ?

skip1973 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 02, 2014, 02:02:20 AM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on May 02, 2014, 01:15:09 AM

So I have never used a scuff sheet and now torn over if I should use it for my first custom bat. I haven't seen too many pros use it and I can't seem to understand how it wouldn't impact performance negatively. It doesn't make sense to me to spend 500 bucks on a bat and spend hours knocking it in and then cover it with a thick sheet that stays between the bat and ball.

What do people here think ? Does it impact performance ?

Do any top level pros use one ?

I don't know many pro's who don't use it, there is no noticeable difference in performance and will extend the life of your bat.

Jenko · « **Reply #2 on:** May 02, 2014, 02:25:51 AM »

James laver comments on them in this article:

http://www.alloutcricket.com/player/gear/gear-this-week-ask-the-bat-maker-questions-answered

Nmcgee · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2014, 02:47:48 AM »

Nice article

mattw · « **Reply #4 on:** May 02, 2014, 03:01:18 AM »

I'd always use one, especially with a new bat. Remember the pros play against the best quality balls available and do not really care if their bat breaks(unless it's an absolute favourite) as they get free bats whenever they want from their sponsors. Overall it probably does effect the performance (which is variable depending on different scuff sheets) but on a miniscule scale that's not noticed.

fasteddie · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:15:14 AM »

The one scuff sheet I avoid is the Newbery Hammer Edge.
It's so stiff and thick.

The Laver article is a good read.

Buzz · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:35:22 AM »

for what it is worth, my view is that some scuff sheets do negatively impact performance, but they are still worth it.

at the moment I am trialling a fibre one to see the impact of that.

smilley792 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:48:23 AM »

Scuff (No Swearing Please) or no scuff (No Swearing Please). Is that really the issue at hand?

I have bats with scuff sheets, I have bats without, I hit fours and sixes with both styles, I get out with both styles.

When I get caught on the boundary do I think "why did I use the bat with the scuff sheet" no I think why did I play that shot with a fielder there.

When I hit a cover drive and it stops 4inch short do I again blame the cuff sheet? No I think I didn't time that well.

If there is a difference it's negligible, and doubtful that it effects the outcome of your shot/play/game.
So it seems to come down to the same old adage. " a bad workman blames his tools"

So my advice is, rather than mull over weather to fit or remove a scuff sheet, or once again buy a new bat, instead get yourself down to some nets and maybe buy some coaching sessions to improve your game.

skip1973 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:50:15 AM »

Coaching isn't going to protect your bat.

joeljonno · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:52:02 AM »

My last scuff sheet cost about �3. How much coaching can I get for that?

Fearless Fly · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2014, 07:26:47 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on May 02, 2014, 06:48:23 AM

Scuff (No Swearing Please) or no scuff (No Swearing Please). Is that really the issue at hand?

I have bats with scuff sheets, I have bats without, I hit fours and sixes with both styles, I get out with both styles.

When I get caught on the boundary do I think "why did I use the bat with the scuff sheet" no I think why did I play that shot with a fielder there.

When I hit a cover drive and it stops 4inch short do I again blame the cuff sheet? No I think I didn't time that well.

If there is a difference it's negligible, and doubtful that it effects the outcome of your shot/play/game.
So it seems to come down to the same old adage. " a bad workman blames his tools"

So my advice is, rather than mull over weather to fit or remove a scuff sheet, or once again buy a new bat, instead get yourself down to some nets and maybe buy some coaching sessions to improve your game.

EXACTLY RIGHT!! on another note, if you look after your bat properly either scuff or no scuff it wont change the performance... not looking after you bat will reduce the performance

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2014, 08:09:48 AM »

Clear scuff sheets are generally thicker and can have a more negative effect on the blades performance than fibre but are easier to remove. Fibre sheets disintegrate quicker. Having paid top money i would fit one prior to use.

tim2000s · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2014, 09:31:49 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on May 02, 2014, 06:48:23 AM

If there is a difference it's negligible, and doubtful that it effects the outcome of your shot/play/game.
So it seems to come down to the same old adage. " a bad workman blames his tools"

This.

Putting less than a mm of plastic between the ball and the willow is going to have an impact on performance of less than 0.01%. So little that it is negligible, and something that timing will have a much greater impact on. You might even argue that by placing a scuff sheet in place you are effectively creating a type of laminate. It really makes no difference.

mattw · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2014, 09:48:44 AM »

Quote from: tim2000s on May 02, 2014, 09:31:49 AM

This.

Putting less than a mm of plastic between the ball and the willow is going to have an impact on performance of less than 0.01%. So little that it is negligible, and something that timing will have a much greater impact on. You might even argue that by placing a scuff sheet in place you are effectively creating a type of laminate. It really makes no difference.

It especially seemed that way with the 'performance scuff sheets', however they were prone to crack with any shot near the edge of the bat.

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #14 on:** May 03, 2014, 03:15:00 PM »

Assuming I agree with everything said here and am hesitantly willing to put on a scuff sheet, what would be my best bet ? Any opinions on the hammer edge facing ? If it's all the same, if still like to see the grains ie clear facing preferred.

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