Topic: concaving.....whats the deal? (Read 7300 times)

Stuey · « **on:** May 16, 2014, 06:31:48 AM »

Apologies if this has been discussed on other threads, but why do bat makers shape concaving into bats, what's the benefit and why do some members dislike concaving?

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2014, 06:48:59 AM »

Concaving is the easiest way to remove large amounts of wood from the cleft, this making the bat light, you are also able to leave the edges nice and big. So basically with concaving you can make a big bat and get it to a light weight. Some go to real extremes to do this. Why don't people like it? There is science and logic that says the less wood behind the ball at impact it won't go as far, but I think at the level 99% of people on this forum play too its just personal choice mate.

King pair · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2014, 07:10:44 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on May 16, 2014, 06:48:59 AM

but I think at the level 99% of people on this forum play too its just personal choice mate.

Completely in agreement. Using light bats myself(2.7ish) I have to concede that there will be abit of concaving on my bat, but not really being one for edge size, id rather have an ordinary size edge and as much in the back as possible at that weight. I think that you should back yourself to be able to time the ball well enough that the concaving doesn't really affect your game

Stuey · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2014, 08:00:03 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on May 16, 2014, 06:48:59 AM

Concaving is the easiest way to remove large amounts of wood from the cleft, this making the bat light, you are also able to leave the edges nice and big. So basically with concaving you can make a big bat and get it to a light weight. Some go to real extremes to do this. Why don't people like it? There is science and logic that says the less wood behind the ball at impact it won't go as far, but I think at the level 99% of people on this forum play too its just personal choice mate.

Thank you, I'm now a little wiser. The bat I use currently is 2lb7 and has some concaving, but I probably couldn't tell you if it impacts my performance I still manage to find the boundary

I see the CK22 has a deep spine and concaving, I guess a trend at the moment.

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2014, 09:26:59 AM »

In my opinion, the most important factor in the performance of a bat is the pressing. The quality of the piece of willow will also have an obvious impact. You can be a dab hand at pressing but a dud cleft will make a dud bat.

Removing wood from various areas of the back of the bat affects balance and pick up more than anything. In my opinion concaving has little impact on performance, if any.

If removing wood from the back of the bat made such a difference then the GN scoop would be the worst bat ever made.

I have owned concaved and non concaved bats, some of my favourites including the best performing bat I've ever owned have been concaved.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2014, 09:33:33 AM »

I personally (so this is just my own opinion) notice no difference between my slightly concaved RPC to my little more concaved Blueroom bat. Both go like anything else I've seen so tbh, I think it comes down to trusting the batmaker/company to not be selling crap bats and the feel to you. Get them both right and it'll score you runs.

Stuey · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2014, 10:13:46 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on May 16, 2014, 09:33:33 AM

I think it comes down to trusting the batmaker/company to not be selling crap bats and the feel to you. Get them both right and it'll score you runs.

That's how I see it too.

MD2812 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2014, 10:17:02 AM »

I prefer bats without much concaving and have absolutely no reason for this, it's just what I like.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2014, 10:27:27 AM »

Quote from: MD2812 on May 16, 2014, 10:17:02 AM

it's just what I like.

Best reason ever!

TangoWhiskey · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2014, 10:48:39 AM »

I prefer the thought of no concaving, but my best results have come from a bat with quite a lot of concaving so god knows where I stand!

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2014, 11:18:58 AM »

Quote from: king pair on May 16, 2014, 07:10:44 AM

Completely in agreement. Using light bats myself(2.7ish) I have to concede that there will be abit of concaving on my bat, but not really being one for edge size, id rather have an ordinary size edge and as much in the back as possible at that weight. I think that you should back yourself to be able to time the ball well enough that the concaving doesn't really affect your game

Not necessarily, this H4L NV bat is 2.7 and not really any concaving...

King pair · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2014, 11:27:33 AM »

Wish I had the money for that haha

Mattsky · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2014, 12:10:51 PM »

I'd say there was a gentle concave to that NV, no? Still a jolly nice bat though.

From the H4L's website description for it:

Quick Overview
The NV has been developed with the modern cricketer in mind. With thick edges and a elongated sweet spot, combined with a beautifully balanced pick up this bat is perfect for the all-round stroke player.

� Premium Grade 1 English Willow
� Concave Shaped Spine
� Extra Thick Edges
� Bowed Blade
� Huge Sweet Spot
� Light Pick-up
� Shaped Handle

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2014, 01:43:45 PM »

Quote from: Mattsky on May 16, 2014, 12:10:51 PM

I'd say there was a gentle concave to that NV, no? Still a jolly nice bat though.

From the H4L's website description for it:

Quick Overview
The NV has been developed with the modern cricketer in mind. With thick edges and a elongated sweet spot, combined with a beautifully balanced pick up this bat is perfect for the all-round stroke player.

� Premium Grade 1 English Willow
� Concave Shaped Spine
� Extra Thick Edges
� Bowed Blade
� Huge Sweet Spot
� Light Pick-up
� Shaped Handle

Very gentle, I guess. There are website descriptions of bats, and then there are the bats that we actually pick. The two aren't always exactly the same...

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2014, 01:44:58 PM »

Have to agree bats without concaving perform better across the full face of the blade.

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